Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

  1. #1
    FPG Donor ♕ Chrissy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    11,472
    Thanks
    6,930
    Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,016 Posts
    Rep Power
    24

    Default Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    I have decided to review some of my inks. These aren't necessarily in any particular order. This one is J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    J. Herbin is the oldest name in pen inks in the world. M. Herbin created “The Jewel of Inks” in his shop on the Rue des Fosses Saint-Germain in Paris in 1700.

    Herbin uses all natural dyes in their fountain pen inks. This natural composition is reflected in the very neutral pH of the inks. Each bottle of 30 ml/1 oz ink is elegantly labeled and has a pen rest. They are known as “D bottle pen inks.” The “D” refers to the old French unit of measure “la Demi Courtine.”

    Eclat de saphir (Sapphire blue): sapphire is a gemstone. The terminology probably comes from 2 origins: the Greek with “sappheiros” (a stone of blue color) or from the Hebrew “sappir” (the most beautiful thing).

    This color is a reminder of J. Herbin and his work at the most prestigious royal courts of Europe.

    • This isn't a waterproof or an archival ink

    • Bearing in mind the paper I use is very smooth, this ink took 13-16 secs to dry.

    • It flows reasonably wet and lubricates the nib quite well.

    • It is currently available in packs of 4 x 10ml small glass bottles and 30ml glass bottles.

    • It's available from many B&M shops and online retailers worldwide.


    J H Eclat de saphir.jpg

  2. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Chrissy For This Useful Post:

    earthdawn (April 6th, 2015), Jeph (April 6th, 2015), kaisnowbird (April 6th, 2015), Laura N (April 6th, 2015), Marsilius (April 8th, 2015), Neo (April 6th, 2015), pica pica (April 6th, 2015), rpsyed (June 4th, 2015), Xina (April 10th, 2015)

  3. #2
    Senior Member akapulko2020's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    239
    Thanks
    1,146
    Thanked 120 Times in 67 Posts
    Rep Power
    10

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I have decided to review some of my inks. These aren't necessarily in any particular order. This one is J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    J. Herbin is the oldest name in pen inks in the world. M. Herbin created “The Jewel of Inks” in his shop on the Rue des Fosses Saint-Germain in Paris in 1700.

    Herbin uses all natural dyes in their fountain pen inks. This natural composition is reflected in the very neutral pH of the inks. Each bottle of 30 ml/1 oz ink is elegantly labeled and has a pen rest. They are known as “D bottle pen inks.” The “D” refers to the old French unit of measure “la Demi Courtine.”

    Eclat de saphir (Sapphire blue): sapphire is a gemstone. The terminology probably comes from 2 origins: the Greek with “sappheiros” (a stone of blue color) or from the Hebrew “sappir” (the most beautiful thing).

    This color is a reminder of J. Herbin and his work at the most prestigious royal courts of Europe.

    • This isn't a waterproof or an archival ink

    • Bearing in mind the paper I use is very smooth, this ink took 13-16 secs to dry.

    • It flows reasonably wet and lubricates the nib quite well.

    • It is currently available in packs of 4 x 10ml small glass bottles and 30ml glass bottles.

    • It's available from many B&M shops and online retailers worldwide.


    J H Eclat de saphir.jpg
    Thank you for another detailed review and another nice color I wasn't familiar with !

    BTW "Sappir" in modern day Hebrew refers to the precious blue stone as well
    "Computers can figure out all kinds of problems, except the things
    in the world that just don't add up."
    James Magary

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to akapulko2020 For This Useful Post:

    pica pica (April 6th, 2015)

  5. #3
    Senior Member kaisnowbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    1,100
    Thanks
    1,637
    Thanked 613 Times in 347 Posts
    Rep Power
    13

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Great review!

    My Eclat de Saphir seems to be a bit more purple than yours. Is it my computer screen?
    Kai

    "Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished." -- Lao Tzu


  6. The Following User Says Thank You to kaisnowbird For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 6th, 2015)

  7. #4
    FPG Donor ♕ Chrissy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    11,472
    Thanks
    6,930
    Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,016 Posts
    Rep Power
    24

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisnowbird View Post
    Great review!

    My Eclat de Saphir seems to be a bit more purple than yours. Is it my computer screen?
    I can't see any more purple on the actual review sheet. Just a bright sapphire blue. This sample is a brand new bottle

  8. #5
    Senior Member dr.grace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    208
    Thanks
    381
    Thanked 104 Times in 69 Posts
    Rep Power
    12

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Surprisingly, it does have a fair amount of water-resistance. Some ink runs off, but a considerable amount remains.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to dr.grace For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 7th, 2015)

  10. #6
    Senior Member migo984's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Global Nomad
    Posts
    2,621
    Thanks
    622
    Thanked 3,155 Times in 1,103 Posts
    Rep Power
    13

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisnowbird View Post
    Great review!

    My Eclat de Saphir seems to be a bit more purple than yours. Is it my computer screen?
    I agree about the hint of purple. Similar to Sailor Ultramarine in tonal balance.

  11. #7
    FPG Donor ♕ Chrissy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    11,472
    Thanks
    6,930
    Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,016 Posts
    Rep Power
    24

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    From online images I have found, the ink in my bottle doesn't appear to have the same tonal balance as Sailor Ultramarine, as that ink looks more purple than Eclat de saphir. If anything Eclat de saphir may be slightly darker and have a slightly more red tone.

    It looks exactly like the swabs on the J.Herbin web-site.

    I found this comparison image that shows both inks, but I don't have Sailor Ultramarine so I can't comment about that ink.

    Attachment 17834
    Last edited by Chrissy; April 6th, 2015 at 01:13 PM.

  12. #8
    Senior Member Laura N's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Chicagoland
    Posts
    2,071
    Thanks
    1,519
    Thanked 2,593 Times in 1,021 Posts
    Rep Power
    14

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    FWIW, mine looks like Chrissy's writing sample, and her "1 pass" swab, at least on my monitor. I do think of the ink as a blue with a touch of pink/purple. To my memory, Éclat de Saphir has more purple tint than Quink Washable Blue, for example. But it's less purple and more blue than many blue inks. I like it as a standard blue ink. I should ink it up, thanks for the reminder!

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Laura N For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 6th, 2015)

  14. #9
    FPG Donor ♕ Chrissy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    11,472
    Thanks
    6,930
    Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,016 Posts
    Rep Power
    24

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    I have tried out my sample on my Rhodia Dot Pad, and I can now see a slight hint of purple that I couldn't see on the light cream Conqueror paper that I did the review on:

    J H Eclat de saphir2 (2).jpg

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to Chrissy For This Useful Post:

    Xina (April 10th, 2015)

  16. #10
    Senior Member kaisnowbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    1,100
    Thanks
    1,637
    Thanked 613 Times in 347 Posts
    Rep Power
    13

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Thank you very much Chrissy.

    Perhaps it's just my bottle. Come to think of it, perhaps the reason that I consider Eclat de Saphir slightly purple (like Laura said, more blue less purple) is because I am used to my blue ink to be a lot more blue (Parker Blue, DC Supershow Blue, Waterman Serenite, Iroshizuku Tsuki-yo, etc).
    Kai

    "Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished." -- Lao Tzu


  17. The Following User Says Thank You to kaisnowbird For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 7th, 2015)

  18. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Small town, AB, CAN
    Posts
    669
    Thanks
    715
    Thanked 131 Times in 66 Posts
    Rep Power
    10

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Thanks for the review!

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to BCDDiggler For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 7th, 2015)

  20. #12
    Senior Member Mags's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Saskatoon, Canada
    Posts
    1,237
    Thanks
    365
    Thanked 500 Times in 294 Posts
    Rep Power
    13

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    It is a touch purple or that's my perception of my bottle. I use this exclusively in my Churchill. I am sure it would have driven him a little daft.
    Mags or Rob Maguire MB 149, 147, 146,144, Mozart, Boehme, Sailor Realo, Aurora Optima, Churchmen Prescriptor and Parson's Essential, Parker 51 1.3 mm stub, Parker Vacumatic 1939 OB Can, TWSBI's (540,580, Mini and Vac 700), Pelikan M 1000/800 Demonstrator 600/200 demoM/200 OBB, Visconti Rembrandts (2), Lamy, Cross, Watermans, Pilots, Sheaffer's, Omas 360 LE 84/360, GvFC, Esterbrooks J and SJ, Bexley Jitterbug, Taccia, Eversharp 1952 flex, Edison Herald, Franklin Christoph Piper.

  21. The Following User Says Thank You to Mags For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 7th, 2015)

  22. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Mostly Frozen Alaska, USA
    Posts
    215
    Thanks
    27
    Thanked 113 Times in 38 Posts
    Rep Power
    13

    Default Re: Ink Review: J Herbin Eclat de saphir (Sapphire Blue)

    Serendipitously, I just purchased some of this but haven't had a chance to use it...this review makes me pre-emptives happy I bought it!

    Tangentially, there's a third possibility for the etymology: the Sanskrit word çanipriya ...
    http://katexic.com/clippings/
    Love interesting words? Curious links? Great writing? Subscribe to the free, thrice weekly Katexic Clippings newsletter!

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to fncll For This Useful Post:

    Chrissy (April 7th, 2015)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •