De Atramentis Document Blue Grey

[Yazeh]

De Atramentis Document Blue Grey (Formerly Document Fog Grey)
Another Document ink by De Atramentis, with an uninspired name. Ink has below average lubrication, is wet with very fast dry times on Rhodia.Ironically I most enjoyed writing/ sketching with the Japanese Ef nib. I would say, it’s a better option than Akkerman #09 Laan van Nieuw Oost-Indigo.

Cleaning was easy but for longer use you might need a pen flush nearby. Chroma is interesting, purple at the core and lighter blue at the edges.
Chroma - DOcument Blue Grey.jpeg
Writing Samples:
Rhodia- DeA - Document Bl Grey.jpg

Midori- DeA - Document Bl Grey.jpeg

Tr 68 gr DeA - Document Bl Grey.jpeg

Hammermill - DeA - Document Bl Grey .jpg

Photo:
De Atramentis BLue Grey.jpg
Comparison:
Comparison Blue Black.jpg
Water test:
Watertest DeA - Document Bl Grey.jpeg
and finally an artwork. Lady sings the Blues...


· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Lamy (EF/F/M/B, 1.1), Kanwrite with an Ahab nib
· What I liked: Sketching and writing with a Japanese Ef nib.
· What I did not like: The ink didn’t sing for me. Too wet, low lubrication and long name.
· What some might not like: It’s pigment ink.
· Shading: Not much.
· Ghosting: With wet flex nib.
· Bleed through: Same as above.
· Flow Rate: Wet
· Lubrication: Below average.
· Nib Dry-out: Did not notice.
· Start-up: No.
· Saturation: Not really.
· Shading Potential: Faint
· Sheen: Did not notice.
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.
· Staining (pen): It stains
· Clogging: No.
· Cleaning: Easy for a pigment ink, though having a cleaning solution would be wise.
· Water resistance: Excellent.
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

[LizEF]

I like the chroma. I like the quotes. I like the color - on the list it goes. But I love the kitties. Poor broken-hearted water-test kitty. Who knew our little mouse friend could play the blues? I'm not sure I want to hear sketch-kitty sing - "caterwauling" isn't generally a pleasant sound...

As to the uninspired name: I'm not sure (because I'm not the guy making and naming the inks), but I think this used to be Document Fog Grey, but people were confused by there being a Document Fog Grey and a (non-Document) Fog Grey, and so the Document version got a name change. (But I could be all wrong about this - neither is on the De Atramentis website any more. Maybe he renamed both. There are inks where the "color name" is "Fog Grey" - though this isn't one...)

I would say, it’s a better option than Akkerman #09 Laan van Nieuw Oost-Indigo.

I may have to challenge you to a duel over that statement!


Thanks for another fun and fabulous review, Yazeh!

[mizgeorge]

Thank you as always - I was very much hoping to see this one after the hint in the Akkerman one! Once more, a fantastic, in-depth look at an interesting ink.

I love this colour (I think that's pretty clear now!) and once again, this is a nice chroma - actually it surprised me for ink with such good water resistance.

I have a bottle of Document Fog Grey, and I agree with Liz that this is probably the same ink, though I wonder if there's been a subtle colour shift towards the blue side along with the renaming. I do use it, but had the same problem with poor lubrication, and as I always seem to have a pen loaded with souboku, and another with salix, I rarely reach for this one. Perhaps I should use it more - or if not, perhaps I should draw with it.

Broken hearted kitty made me a little sad, but I love the plump lady - who looks slightly like a Russian Blue to me And we all know, it's not over until she sings...

An unexpected treat for a dreary Wednesday 🙏

[Yazeh]

I like the chroma. I like the quotes. I like the color - on the list it goes. But I love the kitties. Poor broken-hearted water-test kitty. Who knew our little mouse friend could play the blues? I'm not sure I want to hear sketch-kitty sing - "caterwauling" isn't generally a pleasant sound...

Glad it's to your liking 🙏🙏🙏 Though if mouse can play the blues, probably the cat can do quite we;;

As to the uninspired name: I'm not sure (because I'm not the guy making and naming the inks), but I think this used to be Document Fog Grey, but people were confused by there being a Document Fog Grey and a (non-Document) Fog Grey, and so the Document version got a name change. (But I could be all wrong about this - neither is on the De Atramentis website any more. Maybe he renamed both. There are inks where the "color name" is "Fog Grey" - though this isn't one...)

You're absolutely right on this one. I updated my post.

I would say, it’s a better option than Akkerman #09 Laan van Nieuw Oost-Indigo.

I may have to challenge you to a duel over that statement!

En garde

Thanks for another fun and fabulous review, Yazeh!

A pleasure!

[Yazeh]

Thank you as always - I was very much hoping to see this one after the hint in the Akkerman one! Once more, a fantastic, in-depth look at an interesting ink.

🙏🙏🙏

I love this colour (I think that's pretty clear now!) and once again, this is a nice chroma - actually it surprised me for ink with such good water resistance.

It's a document ink. So if it wouldn't I would be more surprised.

I have a bottle of Document Fog Grey, and I agree with Liz that this is probably the same ink, though I wonder if there's been a subtle colour shift towards the blue side along with the renaming. I do use it, but had the same problem with poor lubrication, and as I always seem to have a pen loaded with souboku, and another with salix, I rarely reach for this one. Perhaps I should use it more - or if not, perhaps I should draw with it.

The Vanness website considers them the same. This one has more or less poor lubrication, but you sort of get used to it

Broken hearted kitty made me a little sad, but I love the plump lady - who looks slightly like a Russian Blue to me And we all know, it's not over until she sings...

An unexpected treat for a dreary Wednesday 🙏

A pleasure

[Sailor Kenshin]

You're right about the chroma. Interesting and complex, and I like the blue-gray color of the ink itself. I would dislike the lack of lubrication.

I may have once had one of those 'inky empty bottles' of Salix, but I don't remember if I tried to reconstitute it. If the bottle's still there, I might. But only with a dip pen!

And need I even mention how much I love the sketches? Yes, yes I do. Kitteh looks broken-hearted, because The Blues can hit ya that way.

Thanks, Yazeh, for your wonderful Ink-Splorations!

[Yazeh]

You're right about the chroma. Interesting and complex, and I like the blue-gray color of the ink itself.

I would dislike the lack of lubrication.

Might as well go for a proper IG

I may have once had one of those 'inky empty bottles' of Salix, but I don't remember if I tried to reconstitute it. If the bottle's still there, I might. But only with a dip pen!

And some glorious sketches

And need I even mention how much I love the sketches? Yes, yes I do. Kitteh looks broken-hearted, because The Blues can hit ya that way.

Thanks, Yazeh, for your wonderful Ink-Splorations!

A pleasure!

[Yazeh]

Just an update. This ink stains clear sections. This is a Pilot Kakuno after having spent few hour in Monteverde cleaning solution

De Atramentis Doucment Blue Grey.jpg

[dneal]

Good review. I discovered De Atramentis in a pen shop in Wiesbaden, and have been a huge fan of the regular line ever since.

That said, I don't use any nano-particle ink because of staining - except in one Kaweco Sport dedicated to it.

After cleaning, you will frequently find it stuck to the underside of the nib.

[Sailor Kenshin]

Just an update. This ink stains clear sections. This is a Pilot Kakuno after having spent few hour in Monteverde cleaning solution

De Atramentis Doucment Blue Grey.jpg

I wonder if that Noodler's Red Rattler would help. Or Sailor Douyou. They're supposed to be stain cleaner inks.

[Yazeh]

I wonder if that Noodler's Red Rattler would help. Or Sailor Douyou. They're supposed to be stain cleaner inks.

YEP, I got Doyou for it's stain removing qualities

[Yazeh]

Good review. I discovered De Atramentis in a pen shop in Wiesbaden, and have been a huge fan of the regular line ever since.

That said, I don't use any nano-particle ink because of staining - except in one Kaweco Sport dedicated to it.

After cleaning, you will frequently find it stuck to the underside of the nib.

Thanks! Yep Kaweco is perfect for nano-particle/ bulletproof inks

[dneal]

Good review. I discovered De Atramentis in a pen shop in Wiesbaden, and have been a huge fan of the regular line ever since.

That said, I don't use any nano-particle ink because of staining - except in one Kaweco Sport dedicated to it.

After cleaning, you will frequently find it stuck to the underside of the nib.

Thanks! Yep Kaweco is perfect for nano-particle/ bulletproof inks

Well, any inexpensive pen would be suitable; but I use it in the Sport I carry around in case I need to sign something and want a 'permanent' or 'document' ink. Right now it's got Montblanc's "Permanent Blue".

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