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    Who are the eleven Master Penman??? I've heard many times there are only eleven certified Master Penman in the world, but finding who all eleven are is nearly impossible it seems. I asked this question on the FPN Facebook page and we got four...

    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidman
    Harvest Crittenden
    John Decollibus

    7⃣more✒️

    Doesn't it seem like there would be a page listing all eleven with bios and examples?
    I wonder who number twelve will be? Who is trying out for that team?

    #Findthemissingpenman
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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    Probably the easiest and most accurate response would be to contact Iampeth in the USA.

    As far as UK is concerned there is at least one Master Penman: Brian G Walker Dip Ed (Adv) HFCLAS IAMPETH (USA) Master Penman.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    Thanks,
    We now are only missing four.

    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidman
    Harvest Crittenden
    John Decollibus
    Julian Water
    Debra Bassel
    Brian G Walker
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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    Donald Jackson? He's in the UK. (Interview w/ him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFFVpRnOqY )
    ( His book "The Story of Writing" was also a mini-series, dated but still great: Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVaE1A9EzF0 )


    Also: I believe that Pat Blair is an IAMPETH master penman. (She was the White House Calligrapher, is a member of Washington Calligraphers Guild). http://www.iampeth.com/artist/patricia-blair
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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    http://www.iampeth.com/master-penman-society link looks like theres more than 11.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Finalist View Post
    Who are the eleven Master Penman??? I've heard many times there are only eleven certified Master Penman in the world, but finding who all eleven are is nearly impossible it seems. I asked this question on the FPN Facebook page and we got four...

    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidman
    Harvest Crittenden
    John Decollibus

    7⃣more✒️

    Doesn't it seem like there would be a page listing all eleven with bios and examples?
    I wonder who number twelve will be? Who is trying out for that team?

    #Findthemissingpenman
    Define master penman or what it takes to achieve this please. Is this an official or unofficial title?
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    ^ it's organized and certified by IAMPETH
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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    Quote Originally Posted by caribbean_skye View Post
    http://www.iampeth.com/master-penman-society link looks like theres more than 11.
    The society of Master Penman includes Masters of Penmanship and Master Engrossers. Currently, there are 700 members.
    And there are 12 Master Penmen. Connie Chen achieved that status in Oct, 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finalist View Post
    Thanks,
    We now are only missing four.

    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidman
    Harvest Crittenden
    John Decollibus
    Julian Water
    Debra Bassel
    Brian G Walker
    Patricia Blair
    Coats Brown
    Rosemary Buczek
    Barbara Calzolari
    Chris Costaras
    Harvest Crittenden
    John DeCollibus
    David Fairbanks
    Joseph Kawalski
    Michael Kecseg
    William Lilly
    Vivian Mungall
    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidmann

    Although the site states the membership is closed, Bill Lilly signed Connie Chen's Master Penman certificate in October, 2015 making 12 Master Penmen.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    This is a very hot topic at the moment - quite how hot I wasn't fully aware until earlier this evening, in fact. Please forgive me if I don't go into details, but suffice to say that it seems likely that debate about who is or isn't a Master Penman will run on for a good while yet.

    Those with sharp eyes will notice that Brian Walker isn't on the list in the post above. In case anybody was wondering, I'm pleased to confirm that he's very much alive and well, and his writing is every bit as masterly as it ever was. He isn't using the MP title any more, though.

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    Intriguing! I was aware of the controversy around Connie Chen's certificate, which I think is absurd as she clearly has the skills to be called an MP.

    There's a lot of bullshit involved. There are many, many artists in various fields who are master level without having ever entered formal training. I get the feeling, from the little that I have heard about IAMPETH, that they basically engaged in setting up a monopoly. It all sounded suspiciously like a marketing campaign, as did the recent video with Weidmann and Sull.

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    Well, I wasn't setting out to tantalise, but there's at least one other person here who knows Mr Walker. So it seemed like a good idea to allay any fears for his well being.

    The subject of Connie Chen's certificate and IAMPETH politics is not something I'd care to touch, even with asbestos gloves on. I do, however, wish Ms Chen well: any controversy is not of her making.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    [QUOTE=MR2 David;153553]
    Quote Originally Posted by Finalist View Post
    Patricia Blair
    Coats Brown
    Rosemary Buczek
    Barbara Calzolari
    Chris Costaras
    Harvest Crittenden
    John DeCollibus
    David Fairbanks
    Joseph Kawalski
    Michael Kecseg
    William Lilly
    Vivian Mungall
    Michael Sull
    Jake Weidmann

    Although the site states the membership is closed, Bill Lilly signed Connie Chen's Master Penman certificate in October, 2015 making 12 Master Penmen.
    Just as an aside, four of these individuals are no longer alive--Brown, Costaras, Fairbanks, and Kawalski.
    Brian Walker was inducted by IAMPETH to the Master Penman Society in 2011 at the annual convention. Tremendously talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_of_Clouds View Post
    Intriguing! I was aware of the controversy around Connie Chen's certificate, which I think is absurd as she clearly has the skills to be called an MP.

    There's a lot of bullshit involved. There are many, many artists in various fields who are master level without having ever entered formal training. I get the feeling, from the little that I have heard about IAMPETH, that they basically engaged in setting up a monopoly. It all sounded suspiciously like a marketing campaign, as did the recent video with Weidmann and Sull.
    The video from the Colorado show ???

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    I'm not sure if linking to another forum is against the rules... but in case it's not, also interesting.

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    As far as that IAMPETH goes they can blow it out their collective ear. They do not have a monopoly on who is or is not a Master Penman. That two IAMPETH Masters signed Connie's certificate is, to me, a clear endorsement of her skills, irrespective of whether it is done under IAMPETH reins or independently.

    I do not look to IAMPETH as the sole arbiter of who is or is not a Master Penman. They can play their own games.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    I was watching a Coors (lol) video about Jake Weidman that was making its rounds on Facebook a couple days ago and they mentioned that he's the youngest by 30 years and phrased a lot of the video as if he was the last champion of a dying art. It made me somewhat sad. Darn you, IAMPETH.

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    Default Re: Who are the eleven Master Penman?

    That's the game.

    I am more interested in what people can do rather than what 'club' they may or may not belong to.

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    Having asked a few questions and read a few blogs I now believe I understand this conundrum.

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