Fountain Pens Vintage and Modern by Andreas Lambrou Book

[brando090]

For sale is a newely purchased book my Andreas Lambrou titled Fountain Pens Vintage and Modern, i needed the book for a specific small pen brand, and it had little info, so im looking to sell it. Asking $25 plus shipping, i payed over $100 shipped.

[brando090]

Price dropped.

[brando090]

SOLD

[kirchh]

For sale is a newely purchased book my Andreas Lambrou titled Fountain Pens Vintage and Modern, i needed the book for a specific small pen brand, and it had little info, so im looking to sell it. Asking $25 plus shipping, i payed over $100 shipped.

You're lying.

Fortunately, thanks to the Internet, the entire collecting community (and others) can search for Brandon Cifani and find out how deeply dishonest you are, and thus avoid engaging in any commerce with you on any forums or on eBay (Branny090).

--Daniel

[david1600]

You're lying.

Fortunately, thanks to the Internet, the entire collecting community (and others) can search for Brandon Cifani and find out how deeply dishonest you are, and thus avoid engaging in any commerce with you on any forums or on eBay (Branny090).

--Daniel

From what I checked the new book cost around 100 usd and does it really matter that someone wrote "I payed over 100 shipped" if he's not selling it for the same amount? Also if he bought it cheaper you take decision on your free will to buy it or not.

[kirchh]

I don't know what you know, but it's serious to blaim someone if you don't have any proofs.

I have proof, and I doubt Brandon will challenge my accusation anyway as he knows the truth.


From what I checked the new book cost around 100 usd and does it really matter that someone wrote "I payed over 100 shipped" if he's not selling it for the same amount?

Does it matter if he lied as part of his attempt to sell something? Are you serious?

--Daniel

[david1600]

I have bought this book and it arrived in near mint condition, I also think that price was fair. Could you maybe tell me what happened that you jumped with such accusations about the book you didn't even bought?

[kirchh]

I have bought this book and it arrived in near mint condition, I also think that price was fair. Could you maybe tell me what happened that you jumped with such accusations about the book you didn't even bought?

Brandon lied about how much he paid for the book in an attempt to make its market value seem much higher than it actually is, and thus to make his price seem more attractive by presenting it as being well below what the book actually sells for.

Brandon has been caught in numerous lies in the course of his brief participation in this hobby (as well as in other areas). This is just another example.

Of course, with this knowledge in hand, you (and anyone else who possesses this information about Brandon's extensive dishonesty) are free to engage in commerce with him. If you don't mind if sellers lie to you, it is no concern of mine. But it is a concern of mine that others who might not know about Brandon's dishonesty could get burned by him, sullying our hobby.

--Daniel

[fountainpenkid]

No. kirchh, YOU have shown yourself to be nearly as bad by attacking him. brando90 has made alot of mistakes, but not everything he says is wrong or a lie. Here's just one of many links showing the price: http://www.valorebooks.com/textbooks/fountain-pens-of-the-world-andreas-lambrou-hardcover/9780302006689?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Froogle&utm_source=Froogle&date=10/16/12&buy=3&gclid=CPXGsvu9hrMCFdKd4AodR1YATg If you just joined this forum to attack this person, you should reconsider your actions. Enough said.

[Jon Szanto]

I have proof, and I doubt Brandon will challenge my accusation anyway as he knows the truth.
Look, unless you can post something incontrovertible to back up your claim, you are just another voice on the net. All well and good to try to come across as pointing out unethical behavior, but doing it in a libelous manner is hardly any better.

FWIW, I was given this book as a gift last year, and it did cost that much. Whether it was a bargain or not, it was from a honest retailer, and the price paid was what was advertised. It is a well-produced, limited edition book, and not a paperback best-seller.

Shit or get off the pot. I'm not defending Brandon, but I'm not going to take casual slagging of anyone, because it just isn't right.

[fountainpenkid]

Look, unless you can post something incontrovertible to back up your claim, you are just another voice on the net. All well and good to try to come across as pointing out unethical behavior, but doing it in a libelous manner is hardly any better.

FWIW, I was given this book as a gift last year, and it did cost that much. Whether it was a bargain or not, it was from a honest retailer, and the price paid was what was advertised. It is a well-produced, limited edition book, and not a paperback best-seller.

Shit or get off the pot. I'm not defending Brandon, but I'm not going to take casual slagging of anyone, because it just isn't right.

+1 thanks for clarifying what I said.

[kirchh]

No. kirchh, YOU have shown yourself to be nearly as bad by attacking him. brando90 has made alot of mistakes, but not everything he says is wrong or a lie.
You have committed a flagrant strawman fallacy. Specifically, you are attacking a claim that I never made -- that "everything he says is wrong or a lie."

Feel free to attack claims I have actually made. Then we can have a fair discussion.


Here's just one of many links showing the price: http://www.valorebooks.com/textbooks/fountain-pens-of-the-world-andreas-lambrou-hardcover/9780302006689?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Froogle&utm_source=Froogle&date=10/16/12&buy=3&gclid=CPXGsvu9hrMCFdKd4AodR1YATg

Wrong book.

--Daniel

[fountainpenkid]

I'm done here, but I apologize for accusing you of having the price wrong. Stay away from ridiculing members and enjoy the pens!

[kirchh]

Look, unless you can post something incontrovertible to back up your claim, you are just another voice on the net. All well and good to try to come across as pointing out unethical behavior, but doing it in a libelous manner is hardly any better.

Libel is making damaging false statements. My statements are true. Thus, I am pointing out unethical behavior in a non-libelous manner. If Brandon wishes to challenge my assertion, he is free to do so. I suspect he will not.


FWIW, I was given this book as a gift last year, and it did cost that much. Whether it was a bargain or not, it was from a honest retailer, and the price paid was what was advertised. It is a well-produced, limited edition book, and not a paperback best-seller.

Completely irrelevant. Surely you're not claiming that the facts you cite relieve Brandon of responsibility for his lie?


Shit or get off the pot. I'm not defending Brandon, but I'm not going to take casual slagging of anyone, because it just isn't right.

It's not casual, and it's not slagging. Brandon has engaged in multiple dishonest statements and behaviors. Even he does not deny this. I will remind you that he claimed to be 21 when trying to get information about purchasing a gun.

--Daniel

[Jon Szanto]

Prove your statement. I don't take your word for it.

Man, another internet hardass. In other surprising news, the sun rose in the East this morning.

[fountainpenkid]

I'll say it one more time (no, not to you, Jon ;)) Stay away from ridiculing members and enjoy the pens!

[kirchh]

Prove your statement. I don't take your word for it.
On August 1st, Brandon bought the book on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fountain-Pens-Vintage-and-Modern-by-Andreas-Lambrou-1989-Hardcover-/380458189401). For $12.


Man, another internet hardass. In other surprising news, the sun rose in the East this morning.

How disappointing.

--Daniel

[Jon Szanto]

REDACTED.

I've decided to follow FountainPenKid's advice, and offer nothing more on this. Besides, I'm trying to figure out if it is the Pelikan 400NN that has a problem, or just the ink (J. Herbin Cafe des Isles) inside of it that is causing balky performance for my wife.

Far more interesting.

[kirchh]

I can find nothing in that listing that points to Brandon as the purchaser. I can't find any information about *any* buyer.

Beyond this fact, is there any proof that you have that it was a $12 book that he sold? I have multiple items that were purchased at differing times for different amounts; I'm not saying that is the case here, I am still at a loss as to how you can definitively assert that he purchased said item at said time for a particular price, and then - as you allege - sold it for more after lying about his purchase price.

eBay has a system called "feedback" where buyers and sellers can enter ratings for their trading partners on a per-transaction business. Each entry in a member's feedback is associated with a specific purchase or sale, and it identifies the other party. Therefore, it is a simple matter to determine the buyer of the book in the listing I supplied by looking at the feedback entry for the transaction (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&userid=stillaround-records&iid=380458189401&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=77&page=4).

So, on 8/1, Brandon bought the book for $12. On 8/10, he posts...


For sale is a newely purchased book my Andreas Lambrou titled Fountain Pens Vintage and Modern, i needed the book for a specific small pen brand, and it had little info, so im looking to sell it.
Therefore, your suggestion that he bought two copies of the same book around the same time, one for $100 and one for $12, is utterly nonsensical. As is the notion that Brandon would take a $75 loss on something he flipped ("always trying to get below retail for future resale").

Oh, and a week before buying the book, he wrote,


i['d] rather spend $80 on a pen tha[n] a book.
It is quite clear what transpired. Ignore the obvious at your own peril.

--Daniel

[KrazyIvan]

Going against my better judgement and trying not to feed the troll, this will be my only participation in this thread.

Not defending brando as he already has a record here, but my nitpicking:

1. This is the classifieds, there is already a thread with all kinds of accusations against brando090, maybe go there and not muck up a classifieds thread with what amounts to trolling.

2. The deal was done back in August. Unless he stole the book, did not deliver the goods or the book was not as advertised, it really does not matter how he got the book or how much he payed for it. This applies to anyone and anything that is sold. If a person was willing to pay what he wanted or they reached an amicable agreement, how does this affect you or anyone on this board but the buyer and seller? It doesn't. I am reminded of Stephen Brown's recent video:

http://youtu.be/A9ZKg3tcTM4

[kirchh]

1. This is the classifieds, there is already a thread with all kinds of accusations against brando090, maybe go there and not muck up a classifieds thread with what amounts to trolling.
Brandon made his dishonest statement in this thread, so this is where I responded to it. I will defer to the moderators if they would like me to post in another thread. But to be clear, what I have posted is not "trolling", as my intent is not to provoke or to disrupt.


The deal was done back in August. Unless he stole the book, did not deliver the goods or the book was not as advertised, it really does not matter how he got the book or how much he payed for it. This applies to anyone and anything that is sold. If a person was willing to pay what he wanted or they reached an amicable agreement, how does this affect you or anyone on this board but the buyer and seller? It doesn't.
I disagree completely. In my opinion, the fact that Brandon lies when trying to sell something, as well as in other contexts, affects anyone who might consider engaging in commerce with him, regardless of the specific outcome of this transaction, because it means he cannot be trusted. But I understand that it does not matter at all to you if a seller lies when trying to sell an item as long as the outcome of the transaction is satisfactory, and therefore you will not take into account Brandon's record of dishonesty when you interact with him. It certainly is your right to take that position, though I am baffled by it.

--Daniel

[david1600]

To Administrator, please close this thread as any discussion is pointless.

[dannzeman]

Since Brandon can't defend his position without attacking someone I deleted his post. I've warned kirchh about his posts and have encouraged him to participate in actual pen discussion.

If you happen to see a thread like this in the future, my suggestion is to ignore it and move on.

If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:
Through your User Control Panel: User CP (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/usercp.php), Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/profile.php?do=ignorelist). Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.