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Plume145
February 16th, 2015, 01:25 PM
Hi all! I'm looking for paper that's fountain pen friendly, but also printable in a bog-standard home inkjet. The idea is to have a staple paper that I can reach for without thinking about suitability - eg to make notes on a printed document. Right now I have a lot of specialized paper that's great for what it does, but sucks at everything else, and it would be nice to supplement that with a jack-of-all-trades :-) Can you guys recommend something please?

Here's what I need:

a) A4 (or Letter, failing that)
b) great with FPs: smooth (don't care how long it takes to dry) and heavy-ish - at least 80gsm, around 90-100 is better.
c) inkjet printable (doesn't have to be flawless printing, this is where I compromise, not on FP-friendliness)
d) white (so I can use it for ink reviews) Not TOO blinding, if possible, but obviously not ivory or cream either.
e) headache-free logistics: cheap enough and easy enough to come by that I'm not second-guessing each and every sheet (you know: 'are these meeting notes/to-dos/writing ideas worthy of this precious sheet of [insert expensive or hard-to-find paper]?')

This is what e) means for me:
- easy to come by = I can get it online. Local offerings where I am are unreliable: choice is limited, ever-changing, and subject to frequent shortages. I'm not in North America though, so the store has to ship to the EU without being begged or charging eye-watering sums for postage (Goulet-style). Note: if they're newbies at posting overseas, I don't mind holding their hand the first few times! I've been doing this since 2008 for vendors from all over the world, with items ranging from handmade goods to yard-sale types to business sellers, so I'm used to it :-)
- cheap is a bit more relative because I'm always having to factor in the cost of shipping. But as a starting point, let's stay under $10/100 sheets. However, feel free to suggest as much as twice that - depending on how and what they charge for shipping and what else they stock that I could buy, a 100-pack priced at $15 before shipping could well end up costing less overall than one priced $5 :-)

EXAMPLE: I know many FP people love papers they can get at Staples, but that's out because they don't ship (I know, boo hiss). The fabled HP paper won't work because it's for lasers, not inkjets. Tomoe River may be printable, but it's far too thin. Etc.

Any ideas? (Virtual cookies to be had! Or pictures of kittehs)

Laura N
February 16th, 2015, 06:31 PM
Are you sure HP doesn't make a 24 pound paper for inkjets? I swear I had that, back in the day.

I like Neenah Classic Crest, which is 24 pound or 90gs. I have it in "Classic Natural White," which is an off-white or cream, and "Solar White," which is white, and probably more what you are looking for. They have other colors as well. It says right on the label "Laser and Ink Jet Guaranteed." I got mine on Amazon. It is fine with my pens and inks. :)

Neo
February 16th, 2015, 07:45 PM
Staples ships any size order for free as long as you have their rewards card.

Plume145
February 17th, 2015, 04:53 PM
Are you sure HP doesn't make a 24 pound paper for inkjets? I swear I had that, back in the day.

I like Neenah Classic Crest, which is 24 pound or 90gs. I have it in "Classic Natural White," which is an off-white or cream, and "Solar White," which is white, and probably more what you are looking for. They have other colors as well. It says right on the label "Laser and Ink Jet Guaranteed." I got mine on Amazon. It is fine with my pens and inks. :)

Yes, 24 pounds! Thanks, that's what I need. I know gsm but I couldn't figure out what that is in pounds because they're calculated in different ways :-)

About HP, yes, they do have inkjet paper, but I actually thought that one wasn't (as) FP-friendly as the laser version? As far as I know the love for this among FP writers hinges on how it's basically a printer paper (so, easy to come by, versatile, and costs low per sheet compared to specialty notebooks like Rhodia and co) yet really nice to write on and consistent in quality. But I thought that papers meant for laser printers have a different finish (eg 'sizing' etc) compared to the inkjets, because of how laser is different than inkjet as a process (don't ask me HOW it's different though :P)

The Neenah Classic Crest looks great - first thing I see on their site is, 'Classic Crest Papers are guaranteed to be the papers you can rely on to do it all'. Yes please! Unfortunately, it seems to come only in 500 packs, and I have a sinking feeling noone will ship for less than like sixty bucks (although at least with 500 sheets I'd be set for years). I like this so I'll go on looking, but I'll look for other options too just in case it doesn't work out.

Sooo then, which do you want - cookies, kittens...maybe a cocker spaniel puppy (https://wedgwoodcockers.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014-06-01-00-33-11_resized.jpg) or two (http://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/photography/bigs/08254-Golden-Cocker-Spaniel-puppies-white-background.jpg)?


Staples ships any size order for free as long as you have their rewards card.

Staples ship outside the US? That's news to me, how did I miss THAT?!

Laura N
February 17th, 2015, 05:41 PM
Sooo then, which do you want - cookies, kittens...maybe a cocker spaniel puppy (https://wedgwoodcockers.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014-06-01-00-33-11_resized.jpg) or two (http://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/photography/bigs/08254-Golden-Cocker-Spaniel-puppies-white-background.jpg)?


Puppies are nice, but how about Chicago Blackhawks forward Marian Hossa named NHL "First Star of the Week." (https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/567375623170297856)

klpeabody
February 17th, 2015, 06:11 PM
Sooo then, which do you want - cookies, kittens...maybe a cocker spaniel puppy (https://wedgwoodcockers.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014-06-01-00-33-11_resized.jpg) or two (http://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/photography/bigs/08254-Golden-Cocker-Spaniel-puppies-white-background.jpg)?


Ha!!! I'll take the cocker spaniel puppies!!

I still keep meaning to check out the Neenah Classic Crest. I need to do that. The thing is, I don't want that much bulk lying around.

Plume145
February 17th, 2015, 08:17 PM
Sooo then, which do you want - cookies, kittens...maybe a cocker spaniel puppy (https://wedgwoodcockers.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014-06-01-00-33-11_resized.jpg) or two (http://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/photography/bigs/08254-Golden-Cocker-Spaniel-puppies-white-background.jpg)?


Puppies are nice, but how about Chicago Blackhawks forward Marian Hossa named NHL "First Star of the Week." (https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/567375623170297856)[/QUOTE]





Sooo then, which do you want - cookies, kittens...maybe a cocker spaniel puppy (https://wedgwoodcockers.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014-06-01-00-33-11_resized.jpg) or two (http://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/photography/bigs/08254-Golden-Cocker-Spaniel-puppies-white-background.jpg)?


Ha!!! I'll take the cocker spaniel puppies!!

I still keep meaning to check out the Neenah Classic Crest. I need to do that. The thing is, I don't want that much bulk lying around.

I know what you mean about bulk! I'm not crazy about it either, but it should be doable. But it's moot if I can't get my hands on it :P I think I should probably consider Fabriano too - no idea how much it costs, but considering it's from Italy, shipping should be pretty cheap and there won't be no customs fees or other tomfoolery like that. And it's supposed to be pretty great! They even make the paper for the Euro banknotes, apparently.

Anyway, I'm ever so happy for this Marian Hossa, and for his fans too, but sorry Mr Hockey Player Dude - there's just nothing like a puppy, especially if it's a cocker spaniel. They just give a lasting, superior happy.

;)