Reliable pen repair/restoration?

[fqgouvea]

I have just acquired, in a roundabout way, five Wahl Eversharp Skylines and three Parker Duofols. I think they all need repair of some kind, and I don't think I can do it myself. Does anyone have experience with sending pens to be worked on? I'm in the (northeastern) United States, so someone in the US would be better. Any caveats I should look out for?

[jar]

Skyline plastic did not age well and I have had several jesscomeapartinmyhanz.

Contact Danny Fudge (http://www.thewritepen.net/) and see what he suggests and just do one or two at first.

[Jon Szanto]

Jar is on it, I'd check with Danny first also. Lots of experience in vintage pens, and he is honest and up-front enough that he would let you know where/who to take it to if he felt not right about it. Honestly, I think he could do them all. Reasonable and fast, also.

[Lady Onogaro]

I agree that Danny Fudge is the man.

[RayCornett]

Sean Nicholson is who I would personally recommend. All the experience and great work without a long turnaround time. He loves working on Skylines. I have one from his personal collection which he restored. It is magnificently gorgeous. Looks like it just came out of the box. If you have Facebook you can look him up by name or by his Facebook page for his restoration work: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Write-on-Time-Vintage-Pens-Watches-Restoration-and-Service/208871225809681?fref=ts

[Jon Szanto]

Sean Nicholson is who I would personally recommend. All the experience and great work without a long turnaround time.

All I can find is that his service (or his Facebook page for it, can't tell which) was "founded in February, 2014". Since you are recommending, can you say how long Sean has been restoring pens? He does do a very nice job on Skylines.

[RayCornett]

A couple years. Not as long as a few of the others but he has gotten kodos from some of those who have been doing this much longer. I once saw him do a crushed pen that was in pieces and by the time he was done you couldn't tell. And this was without replacing the barrel.

[moneypenny]

I agree I have seen Sean Nicholsons work at Write on Time and it is amazing. He definitely gives the tern "full restoration" a new meaning!!

[RayCornett]

Looking at Danny's information it seems he just does the basic repair work and not full restorations. Is this correct or is that something he just doesn't mention doing?

[jar]

Looking at Danny's information it seems he just does the basic repair work and not full restorations. Is this correct or is that something he just doesn't mention doing?

I'm not sure what "full restorations" means.

[RayCornett]

Full restoration services. Repairing cracks, scratches,,,stuff that basically turns it to pretty much brand new or better condition. It seems Danny only does the basics like replacing sacs, levers, some nib work,etc.

Restoring something is more detailed than repairing. Repairing for instance,,,,,,,,fixing the bumper on a beat up truck. Whereas restoring would make the whole truck like knew inside and out.

[jar]

Full restoration services. Repairing cracks, scratches,,,stuff that basically turns it to pretty much brand new or better condition. It seems Danny only does the basics like replacing sacs, levers, some nib work,etc.

Restoring something is more detailed than repairing. Repairing for instance,,,,,,,,fixing the bumper on a beat up truck. Whereas restoring would make the whole truck like knew inside and out.

Has anyone actually asked Danny about that?

[RayCornett]

Full restoration services. Repairing cracks, scratches,,,stuff that basically turns it to pretty much brand new or better condition. It seems Danny only does the basics like replacing sacs, levers, some nib work,etc.

Restoring something is more detailed than repairing. Repairing for instance,,,,,,,,fixing the bumper on a beat up truck. Whereas restoring would make the whole truck like knew inside and out.

Has anyone actually asked Danny about that?
Not sure. I never heard of him until this thread but his own services section seems to only list basic pen repair services.

[Jon Szanto]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.

[Jon Szanto]

Not sure. I never heard of him until this thread ...

That says a lot.

[RayCornett]

Not sure. I never heard of him until this thread ...

That says a lot.
I don't go hunting for pen repairmen so it shouldn't be strange id never heard of him until now. Im personal friends an former apprentice of an internationally known harmonica customizer. Chances are you've never heard of him since you probably haven't been seeking that service.

[moneypenny]

Full restoration services. Repairing cracks, scratches,,,stuff that basically turns it to pretty much brand new or better condition. It seems Danny only does the basics like replacing sacs, levers, some nib work,etc.

Restoring something is more detailed than repairing. Repairing for instance,,,,,,,,fixing the bumper on a beat up truck. Whereas restoring would make the whole truck like knew inside and out.


Full Restored
Complet restore inside and out fixing anything that needs to be fixed correctly and shine that is show room quality. Lots of people state that they have full restored pens when they have only replaced a sac or taked short cuts. Sean has great communication with his customers and will keep them in the loop on what is going on even sending them pic. Just be cautious there are a lot or really good people who restore but there are also a lot of people who don't do things as they should.

[moneypenny]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.

Jon, to each there own as far as shine goes. But if you are paying someone to restore a pen shouldn't it atleast look clean. Im sure if you requested Mr Nicholson to just clean a pen to keep the vintage look intact he would do so. Heck he would probably send it to you just repaired IF the customer ask for that.

[RayCornett]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.
It's cute that you assume I don't know that, Jon. I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

[Laura N]

I have used Danny Fudge in the past and found him excellent. He stands behind his work. He knows what he's doing. He's been in business for years, goes to at least some pen shows and I think is involved with the PCA. His prices are very reasonable. He will, if you want, also polish any pens he fixes.

[RayCornett]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.

Jon, to each there own as far as shine goes. But if you are paying someone to restore a pen shouldn't it atleast look clean. Im sure if you requested Mr Nicholson to just clean a pen to keep the vintage look intact he would do so. Heck he would probably send it to you just repaired IF the customer ask for that.
Yes. Exactly. People have sent him pens with initials and such carved in by the hand of a child but all they wanted wasa new sac and to have the pen cleaned with no polishing.

[Laura N]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.
It's cute that you assume I don't know that, Jon. I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

What makes you think Danny Fudge provides only "basic" service? That's kind of an odd word to use. It seems derogatory.

Ray, may I ask you something? Are you connected with "Sean," whom you are recommending so strongly here? I am almost sure that I've read, on this forum, that you have restored pens with him or in association with him. Or maybe you have or had other business arrangements? Perhaps I'm mistaken, or my memory is off, and I'm sure you'll correct me.

[RayCornett]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.
It's cute that you assume I don't know that, Jon. I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

What makes you think Danny Fudge provides only "basic" service? That's kind of an odd word to use. It seems derogatory.

Ray, may I ask you something? Are you connected with "Sean," whom you are recommending so strongly here? I am almost sure that I've read, on this forum, that you have restored pens with him or in association with him. Or maybe you have or had other business arrangements? Perhaps I'm mistaken, or my memory is off, and I'm sure you'll correct me.
His own list of services offered. Not derogatory at all ot at least not meant that way. In many services there are basic and full levels. I was merely pointing out the one seems to only offer basic level repairs whereas the other offers that as well as full restoration. And yes I have never denied that. I can't. I've posted about it. Why do you ask?

[moneypenny]

I think the moral of the story her is do your research before you send a pen to anyone to see what restorer is best for you. We all consider our fountain pens a prized possession and no one wants to be taken advantage of. There are people out there that do great work and there are people out there that do sub par work. If you do your research there's enough info via internet or social media to see reviews.

[Jon Szanto]

Please feel free to close your browser or switch topics, as I have a few things I need to say. It is a topic that has danced around recently in a couple of venues, and I would be remiss to not fully clarify my viewpoints, if for no other reason than to make clear that my goal is to amplify knowledge about the subject, not cast aspersions.

After having been on four different fountain pen forums for over five years, and not only attended local gatherings as well as pen shows, few things have been of more interest to me than the people who care for our "voice extension devices": our pens. I feel fortunate that I've gotten to know a number of them, either in conversation, correspondence, or actual work commissioned. I've built a nice library of repair books, and a good selection of tools, and I'm proud to say that I've never knowingly gone further in a repair than I should have, based on my education.

I've had ample opportunity to examine thousands of pens, from completely unrestored junkers to pens brought back from the dead, and it is a fascinating application of skill, experience, and wisdom. I can honestly say that there are years of projects with which I could educate myself, doing my own pen restorations, and that is going to be fun. While I will help friends with some minor stuff, I never pass up an opportunity to recommend a Real Repair Person.

So it really bothers me when people overlook those members of the pen community who have put in the time to learn literally decades and decades of pen construction and care. Knowing that an object in your hand has every potential to destruct and not be brought back should be a sobering moment, and the good restoration/repair people know this. I look to them to learn from, and by and large this community has been very giving in their sharing of knowledge. One only need look at Richard Binder's remarkable website (http://www.richardspens.com/), practically a School For Pens, to see a wealth of information that has been freely shared.

As I gradually got into all of this, in my earlier days on FPN, I started seeing the names of people who were trusted. Mr. Binder, Ron Zorn, Jim Marshall and Laurence Oldfield, Joel Hamilton and Sherrell Tyree, Danny Fudge, Gerry Berg, David Nishimura, Fred Krinke, Bill Enderlin, Ron Meloche, the Fiorellas, among others. It was great to gradually meet many of them over time. You get a sense of how they view pens, not simply as objects in hand but with a past and future history. In a real sense, they hold a bit of the pen's life in their hands. So I take very seriously how these people are viewed, and do - with no hesitation whatsoever - measure new names and new services against these very benchmarks. You read the books by them, you listen to group discussions, and you understand the depth of knowledge that is encompassed. So, when I see:


Not sure. I never heard of him until this thread ...

I do have to wonder, Ray: how many other well-known pen people might you have overlooked? Even in my most cursory examinations, early on, his name was one of the first that came up. As to:


I'm personal friends an former apprentice of an internationally known harmonica customizer. Chances are you've never heard of him since you probably haven't been seeking that service.

Completely irrelevant. You are giving information on a pen r/r person, and then admitting that you really don't know any others, is that the drift? Meaning that you don't really have anything to compare to, regarding services, workmanship, etc? I think you made it clear, later on, but you should have been absolutely upfront about it: you've had a business relationship with the person you recommended. Most people acknowledge that in advance.


It seems Danny only does the basics like replacing sacs, levers, some nib work,etc.

As has been pointed out, that is poor reporting and inept reading of his site. It clearly states: "Basic restoration includes a light polish. I will also buff out scratches and light bite marks upon request. I mask off imprints and cap band and levers for buffing on a larger buffing wheel and take great care with buffing."

Well, and then there is Mr./Ms. Moneypenny, who seems to have joined our little FPG forum for the express purpose in taking part in this thread. Always an interesting light to shed. As to the following:


Complet restore inside and out fixing anything that needs to be fixed correctly and shine that is show room quality. Lots of people state that they have full restored pens when they have only replaced a sac or taked short cuts. Sean has great communication with his customers and will keep them in the loop on what is going on even sending them pic. Just be cautious there are a lot or really good people who restore but there are also a lot of people who don't do things as they should.

To the first part: not everyone considers a pen that is "showroom quality" to be a plus. I realize that a lot of n00bs may feel this way, and would like a nice BCHR pen from the 1920's to look as spiffy as the Monteverde pens on the Goulet site, but the fact of the matter is: they might wish otherwise in a few years. Yes, tastes vary, but I am most assuredly going to speak out in favor of careful, conservative pen restoration if I have the chance, because shiny is often a substitute for shallow.

As to the second part: pretty lame to be saying that about pen r/r people without backing it up. Vague innuendo at best.


Jon, to each there own as far as shine goes. But if you are paying someone to restore a pen shouldn't it atleast look clean.

Did anyone suggest otherwise? No.


I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

And I've pointed out that you've misread some things, and one should note the price differential between the two parties. The "full restore" from one comes at a higher price point, as well. As to the last part, at no point did I suggest that any of this had to do with monetary value. While some work can be done that indeed affects future re-sale amounts, I am more concerned with the pen itself: the pen deserves to not be disrespected. Don't assume that I own pens for some investment, unless you enjoy being wrong.




I ask the OP, and anyone else who is looking to repair and/or restore one or more fountain pens, to do their "due diligence". Don't rush into it, get a variety of opinions, be as clear as you can in specifying what you would like done, and make certain you are getting information from sources you can trust. Pens are fragile, and they deserve the best of care at every step of the way. Ask people who have been involved with them for a while, and lean on those with plenty of experience. After all, each of us reading this are younger than the oldest pens being worked on somewhere today.




Addendum: I need to make clear that I don't have any connection with Mr. Danny Fudge, other than he has done work on my pens. Others in this category include Ron Zorn, Ron Meloche, Gerry Berg, and Fred Krinke (I have not included nib-specific work done by nibmeisters). Additionally, I hope to send a pen or two to Sean Nicholson at a point in the future to have some work done on them, to broaden my resource base.

[Laura N]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.
It's cute that you assume I don't know that, Jon. I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

What makes you think Danny Fudge provides only "basic" service? That's kind of an odd word to use. It seems derogatory.

Ray, may I ask you something? Are you connected with "Sean," whom you are recommending so strongly here? I am almost sure that I've read, on this forum, that you have restored pens with him or in association with him. Or maybe you have or had other business arrangements? Perhaps I'm mistaken, or my memory is off, and I'm sure you'll correct me.
His own list of services offered. Not derogatory at all ot at least not meant that way. In many services there are basic and full levels. I was merely pointing out the one seems to only offer basic level repairs whereas the other offers that as well as full restoration. And yes I have never denied that. I can't. I've posted about it. Why do you ask?

1. "I was merely pointing out the one seems to only offer basic level repairs whereas the other offers that as well as full restoration." But that's inaccurate. Jon has pointed out why. Further, I have used Danny Fudge to "fully restore" my pens and I clearly stated in Post #20 that I know for a fact that he will polish your pens if you like. Yet you kept repeating it.

2. "And yes I have never denied that. I can't. I've posted about it. Why do you ask?" I am sorry but I haven't read all of your historic posts, and don't recall that you posted elsewhere that you have business arrangements with, or do pen repair with, Sean Nicholson. My memory is that another member posted this, some time ago.

But, you didn't mention that information in this thread before I asked.

And actually you still have not stated exactly what your connection is with him, so I'll go with my memory you work together as pen repair people.

Why did I ask? Information like your business ties to the person you recommend is helpful to people evaluating your comments on the subject. For example, you could have said, "Sean Nicholson and I do that work, and we'll do a great job and you can see examples of our work here, so know if you choose us that I'll take care of you." Instead you recommended, in effect, your business associate, or perhaps yourself, without saying so. And made statements about a different person in the same business, without giving that context.

[RayCornett]

Ray, what you need to understand is: not everyone wants a valuable vintage item to look "showroom new". Some pens, overpolished, are glitzier than when they were brand new, and there are certain restorations that can devalue a prized pen.

I've not held any of Sean's work in my hand, only seen the photos online. I think he does lovely work, but I also value years of experience, as well as the knowledge of when, and on what, a gleaming shine is appropriate.

The phrase "ooooh, shiny!" comes to mind.
It's cute that you assume I don't know that, Jon. I was merely pointing out one does basic service while the other doest that and more if desired. And not all of us are fountain penners for investment.

What makes you think Danny Fudge provides only "basic" service? That's kind of an odd word to use. It seems derogatory.

Ray, may I ask you something? Are you connected with "Sean," whom you are recommending so strongly here? I am almost sure that I've read, on this forum, that you have restored pens with him or in association with him. Or maybe you have or had other business arrangements? Perhaps I'm mistaken, or my memory is off, and I'm sure you'll correct me.
His own list of services offered. Not derogatory at all ot at least not meant that way. In many services there are basic and full levels. I was merely pointing out the one seems to only offer basic level repairs whereas the other offers that as well as full restoration. And yes I have never denied that. I can't. I've posted about it. Why do you ask?

1. "I was merely pointing out the one seems to only offer basic level repairs whereas the other offers that as well as full restoration." But that's inaccurate. Jon has pointed out why. Further, I have used Danny Fudge to "fully restore" my pens and I clearly stated in Post #20 that I know for a fact that he will polish your pens if you like. Yet you kept repeating it.

2. "And yes I have never denied that. I can't. I've posted about it. Why do you ask?" I am sorry but I haven't read all of your historic posts, and don't recall that you posted elsewhere that you have business arrangements with, or do pen repair with, Sean Nicholson. My memory is that another member posted this, some time ago.

But, you didn't mention that information in this thread before I asked.

And actually you still have not stated exactly what your connection is with him, so I'll go with my memory you work together as pen repair people.

Why did I ask? Information like your business ties to the person you recommend is helpful to people evaluating your comments on the subject. For example, you could have said, "Sean Nicholson and I do that work, and we'll do a great job and you can see examples of our work here, so know if you choose us that I'll take care of you." Instead you recommended, in effect, your business associate, or perhaps yourself, without saying so. And made statements about a different person in the same business, without giving that context.
I'm sorry I haven't responded with all kinds of details but I've been using Tapatalk on my cell while preparing and setting up a huge venue for a gem and mineral show which starts tomorrow and runs all weekend. I reply when able. But please realize we are clogging up someone else's post to question me and my reasons for recommending someone to the OP and gnitpick over definitions of restoration and repair. The OP asked for none of this

[moneypenny]

Jon,
At this point there is really no need for me to comment since i feel you get so defensive with every comment . You stated that you have never spoke with Mr Nicholson or held his work so i don't understand your animosity toward him. I have never seen him say anything negative about any other person who restores or collector. People learn how to do things in different ways. For you it might be reading decades or research. However, a person could read about a topic for decades (such as music) but if its never put in to action you would never learn how to play an instrument. I did not intend to discredit anyone's work. If you read my last post I stated to simply do your research before sending a pen to ANYONE to make sure you found the right restoration person for you. We all treasure our fountain pens and the last thing anyone wants is to be in a bad situation. Again everyone has different taste but i wouldn't say that just because Mr Nicholson shines a pen that he does "shallow" work as you called it. There are lots of restores and some of them are known for different things (ie returning nib grinding ect) just because one person doesn't meet the your needs doesn't mean another can't. We all just need to feel comfortable with who we send pens to. For many of us our pens are an investment not just something we pick up at walmart. Jon I wish you the best!! I have enjoyed reading everyone's post and info. To the poster i hope you find the person that's right for you!!!

[Steph]

I would recommend Ron Zorn of Main Street Pens. Wait time is long, but well worth it.

[Jon Szanto]

Jon, At this point there is really no need for me to comment since i feel you get so defensive with every comment.

Well, since you did comment :) I just want to say: I really don't think I'm being defensive, though I do like to correct inaccuracies. Ray mentioned that the OP "asked for none of this", which is true, yet a good deal of valuable information has come to light. Part of that is in my responses to some of the posts. So:


You stated that you have never spoke with Mr Nicholson or held his work so i don't understand your animosity toward him.

No, I never said we haven't communicated (if that is what you mean by "talk"), only that I haven't seen his workmanship in person. You'll note my earlier comment complimenting his work on Wahl-Eversharp Skylines.


People learn how to do things in different ways. For you it might be reading decades or research. However, a person could read about a topic for decades (such as music) but if its never put in to action you would never learn how to play an instrument.

Certainly. I put it "into action" at home, on my pens, on a regular basis. The line in the sand, of course, is when you do work on other people's pens, for a fee. I think that ups the level of assumed knowledge quite a bit.


I did not intend to discredit anyone's work.

Did you not, twice, imply otherwise? I addressed those two spots already.

In the end, beyond those small matters, I think we are both of the same mind: good pens deserve good care. If we all put that at the front of our priorities, we can be proud of the people we suggest when someone posts regarding repair and restoration of treasured pens. Lastly, I am sorry I brought up the issue of your few posts and recent entry into the forum, that was unfair on my part. I hope you'll consider becoming involved here. Maybe post in the New Members forum? (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/3-New-Members)

[Jon Szanto]

I would recommend Ron Zorn of Main Street Pens. Wait time is long, but well worth it.

Well, he is at the top of the class, but we should note: as of March, Ron is not taking any new r/r work, in order to get caught up. They haven't announced when he'll start accepting new repair orders, but one can keep an eye on his site. (http://www.mainstreetpens.com/pricelist.htm)

[Farmboy]

Interesting.

Perhaps a good reason why a growing number of restorers don't advertize.

Farmboy

PS, anyone got a clutch ring for a 21?

[moneypenny]

Well, since you did comment :) I just want to say: I really don't think I'm being defensive, though I do like to correct inaccuracies. Ray mentioned that the OP "asked for none of this", which is true, yet a good deal of valuable information has come to light. Part of that is in my responses to some of the posts. So:


You stated that you have never spoke with Mr Nicholson or held his work so i don't understand your animosity toward him.

No, I never said we haven't communicated (if that is what you mean by "talk"), only that I haven't seen his workmanship in person. You'll note my earlier comment complimenting his work on Wahl-Eversharp Skylines.


People learn how to do things in different ways. For you it might be reading decades or research. However, a person could read about a topic for decades (such as music) but if its never put in to action you would never learn how to play an instrument.

Certainly. I put it "into action" at home, on my pens, on a regular basis. The line in the sand, of course, is when you do work on other people's pens, for a fee. I think that ups the level of assumed knowledge quite a bit.


I did not intend to discredit anyone's work.

Did you not, twice, imply otherwise? I addressed those two spots already.

In the end, beyond those small matters, I think we are both of the same mind: good pens deserve good care. If we all put that at the front of our priorities, we can be proud of the people we suggest when someone posts regarding repair and restoration of treasured pens. Lastly, I am sorry I brought up the issue of your few posts and recent entry into the forum, that was unfair on my part. I hope you'll consider becoming involved here. Maybe post in the New Members forum? (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/3-New-Members)

All i am going to say to this is 1st Sean does restore his own pens. Maybe you would know that if you had any communication with him. 2nd I would never publicly discredit anyone's work. Which i pointed to checking reviews.

[moneypenny]

It seems that word of mouth advertisement may not be the best method either lol.

[Farmboy]

It seems that word of mouth advertisement may not be the best method either lol.

From what I know the method works pretty well.

[gweddig]

PS, anyone got a clutch ring for a 21?



What color would you like? 😉

[mtsheehan]

I have used Sean Nicholson exclusively over the past 2 years after getting bounced around by some of the old guard that Szanto (in the uppity manner that is his hallmark in the many forums that he blows his hot air around in) so profusely supports, citing no particular wonderful thing they did to even one pen. Repairers Szanto mentions have failed to repair cracked cap lips, sent pens back with loose sections, wobbly levers, scratches that could have been polished out easily, glue remnants etc. Sean has repaired at least 75 pens for me and on each one he has made them better than new. He can repair Vacumatic fillers, Sheaffer Vac fillers, safety fillers, leverless/twist fillers, wobbly levers, loose clips, you name it. He can make virtually any crack disappear, and not just cosmetically. A cracked cap on an old Onoto de la Rue that went through 2 of SzAntos old guard unfixed - Sean fixed it. He can clean up any old dog off the 'bay scratched, tarnished, missing pieces, cracks etc and he can restore every bit of it to new condition. Szanto has it out for the new kid on the block and he's dead wrong - he's attacked him in his San Francisco bush manner and everyone knows it. Bugger off Jon. Btw it's spelled "John" in the real world.

[KBeezie]

Looking at Danny's information it seems he just does the basic repair work and not full restorations. Is this correct or is that something he just doesn't mention doing?

I'm not sure what "full restorations" means.

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I get asked quite frequently what FULL RESTORATION/FULLY RESTORED means.
I can't speak for others or their definition, but here at Write On Time FULL RESTORATION/FULLY RESTORED means the following:
Complete Dis-assembly of the pen
Complete cleaning of all parts of the pen
New Sac, Diaphragm, O-rings, Plunger Washers,Seals etc
Nib and Feed adjusted if needed
Scratch/Dent removal ( does not apply to metal caps )
Complete Hand Polishing of pen and furniture

We can also repair cracks,breaks,deep bite marks,Parts if needed and are on a per pen basis after inspection of the pen, which an estimate of additional cost is then sent to the customer.
I hope this helps!


Plus he provides a one year warranty on the restoration done.

Everything I've gotten back from him, or purchased restored from him has been nothing less than perfect and like-new looking. He's taken out damage I didn't think could be repaired, and did so without leaving a trace of some kind of repair work having been done (and without replacing the part as the striation and such in the celluloid remains the same).

For restoration I can't do myself, it goes to Sean. If I need nib work done, it's going to Dan Smith (NibSmith.com).

Also I noticed every time Sean gets mentioned, Jon is very quick to point out he doesn't have a website, or what other flaws he can pick out that doesn't seem to relate directly to the quality of his work.

[mtsheehan]

I would add that in addition to using Sean exclusively for restoration work, I also use Mike-it-Work for custom stub italic grinds. Every nib that comes back from Mike goes right into the rotation and they are tough to put back in the case.

[AltecGreen]

I wasn't going participate but.....


I'm sure by this point the OP has fled in terror without actually getting his questions answered.


The reality is that there is no shortage of competent people out there to restore pens. Many of the 'old guard' have been mentioned and a few new people have appeared in the last few years. For the OP, I looked up where you are located and could not think of anyone obvious in your local area. If you have to send off the pens, then you have quite a range of people who can do the work. I'm sure once everyone calms down, people can give you a range of names. Some factors like availability, turn around time, cost will be the deciding factor. I would add that no repair person is perfect and even the best make mistakes or the pen is just doomed from the beginning. It helps to have an idea of what you think is wrong with the pen. If the nib needs work, then you would send that pen to some like Mike Masuyama of John Mottishaw. If it just needs a re-sac then you might consider someone else for that work (mainly lead time in this case).

When I choose a repair person, I take into account the mantra "You don't repair pens , if you do not have parts". This is not an issue with basic repairs like a simple re-sac of most lever fillers for example. But if you have a pen like a Soennecken, for example, with their click piston mechanism, you would want a restorer that has worked on that kind of pen and has parts. I don't care how good 'your guy' is. They are doing squat if they do not have the parts or fabricate new parts (ex. Parker 21 clutch ring). This leads into a secondary issue. The best can make almost any pen work again. Guys like Francis Goosens can make you a whole new filler if need be. The only issue is cost. Is it worth doing the repair versus part or pen replacement? For example, if the OPs Duofold has a cracked section, that is generally a replacement job rather than a repair. So for the OP, get a list of names and contact each for pricing and lead time. Do some research.

We are all human and obviously have our biases and favorite restorers. There a few out there that are absolutely crap. (Not naming names) But for the most part, guys that been around are all reasonable especially for basic repairs. It is when the repair becomes specific that I get more picky. Some restorers have specialties and better choices for some pens. There is a specific person I would send a Japanese Eyedropper to for repair as an example of a very specific type of repair.

It is a bit of a catch 22 situation for people trying to get into the repair game. "The old guard" as Mike derisively calls them have been around and doing this for a long time and have handled a lot of pens. They are somewhat of a known quantity. That is not to say certain repairs don't go south as I alluded to earlier. With a new person, it is somewhat of an unknown. Is the person new to repairs or new to offering such services. I can probably throw out names of people who have never been mentioned in the various forums but whom I consider masters of repair. They do not advertise and some do not just take work from anyone. On the other hand, I also know of the opposite. A new person who grabbed a few books and youtube videos and started to offer their services. These people have no experience. Fixing a handful of simple lever fillers does not make you a repair person. In the cases I am familiar with, these people got in way over their heads and had to secretly send the pens to someone who knew what they were doing. I am not going to name names. It is not easy to tell how competent a new face is. In the end it comes down to either listening to a recommendation from someone who you hopefully trust or you gamble.

BTW-Jon Szanto lives in Southern California. I am not sure why you drag San Francisco into this.

[Farmboy]

I have used Sean Nicholson exclusively over the past 2 years after getting bounced around by some of the old guard that Szanto (in the uppity manner that is his hallmark in the many forums that he blows his hot air around in) so profusely supports, citing no particular wonderful thing they did to even one pen. Repairers Szanto mentions have failed to repair cracked cap lips, sent pens back with loose sections, wobbly levers, scratches that could have been polished out easily, glue remnants etc. Sean has repaired at least 75 pens for me and on each one he has made them better than new. He can repair Vacumatic fillers, Sheaffer Vac fillers, safety fillers, leverless/twist fillers, wobbly levers, loose clips, you name it. He can make virtually any crack disappear, and not just cosmetically. A cracked cap on an old Onoto de la Rue that went through 2 of SzAntos old guard unfixed - Sean fixed it. He can clean up any old dog off the 'bay scratched, tarnished, missing pieces, cracks etc and he can restore every bit of it to new condition. Szanto has it out for the new kid on the block and he's dead wrong - he's attacked him in his San Francisco bush manner and everyone knows it. Bugger off Jon. Btw it's spelled "John" in the real world.

If it matters, Jon doesn't live in or even near San Francisco.

Does it matter how Jon or John spells his name with respect to pen repair?

[Jon Szanto]

My, my. Opinions really do get people excited.

For my good friend Karl: you'll have to note that I didn't note a lack of website, only mentioning his Facebook page, because... that is where he chooses to run his business. I also gave a good nod to his Skyline restorations, which I've seen from some of your very own high-quality photos, since that particular model pen was in discussion. Hey, I have concerns about over-processing a pen, not everyone does, but it's worth mentioning. People are free to ignore it.

And then there is Mr. Mike Sheehan, joining the forum to have his say. Let's all welcome Mike! He's had a lot of work done, he's got some great pens (shown courtesy the Fountain Pen group on Facebook), and I have no doubt he is happy with the work done. No one could possibly mistake how happy he is, and it gives him extra time to work on things like... how I spell my name. Too bad my dad has passed on, I could have asked him why he did that to me.

I mean, really.

[Farmboy]

My, my. Opinions really do get people excited.

For my good friend Karl: you'll have to note that I didn't note a lack of website, only mentioning his Facebook page, because... that is where he chooses to run his business. I also gave a good nod to his Skyline restorations, which I've seen from some of your very own high-quality photos, since that particular model pen was in discussion. Hey, I have concerns about over-processing a pen, not everyone does, but it's worth mentioning. People are free to ignore it.

And then there is Mr. Mike Sheehan, joining the forum to have his say. Let's all welcome Mike! He's had a lot of work done, he's got some great pens (shown courtesy the Fountain Pen group on Facebook), and I have no doubt he is happy with the work done. No one could possibly mistake how happy he is, and it gives him extra time to work on things like... how I spell my name. Too bad my dad has passed on, I could have asked him why he did that to me.

I mean, really.

Now you know how the man in black feels:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOHPuY88Ry4

[Marsilius]

Johanan, Johannes, Johan, Johann, Jan, Jean, Sean, Yan, Yannes, Wannes, Jannike, Han, Hannes, Joan, Zoan, Giovanni, Juan, Ian, Iaian, Yoni, Yonathan, Jonathan, Jokke, etc.
But this "Jon" thing kind of bothers me.

[KBeezie]

... Some factors like availability, turn around time, cost will be the deciding factor....
If the nib needs work, then you would send that pen to some like Mike Masuyama of John Mottishaw. ...


One of the initial reasons I sent my pens off to Dan Smith for example was his 7 to 10 day turn around (which for my Architect grind and tune and smooth on another pen was about 4 days upon receipt of the pens), as opposed to going with say Mottishaw (nibs.com?) which would be a 6 month wait time based on an inquiry I had two nights ago.


My, my. Opinions really do get people excited.

For my good friend Karl: you'll have to note that I didn't note a lack of website, only mentioning his Facebook page, because... that is where he chooses to run his business. I also gave a good nod to his Skyline restorations, which I've seen from some of your very own high-quality photos, since that particular model pen was in discussion. Hey, I have concerns about over-processing a pen, not everyone does, but it's worth mentioning. People are free to ignore it.



:P Well you know.. it's wholly possible to say, don't polish the pen, just re-sac it, and fix this and that, which he can do, and has separate prices for just those itemized tasks. Many of which are priced lower than some comparable competitors.

Having the option is nice, and for some quite desirable. Some of course aim to try to keep the pen in as original a shape as possible, which may include nothing more than a cleaning, and that's their prerogative. The point is, if you do like a little shine, helps to send it to someone who has made it part of their specialty, but doesn't mean they're incapable of fixing a pen without that added service.

I do not see it as 'over-processing' anymore than someone having a vintage car detailed to look all shiny and new.

Far as restorations, and such, I'll probably be taking on a little work myself slowly, but mainly on a case by case basis, I already gotten some folks who are super impressed in the last couple months, but I don't feel like my own work could compare to Sean's at all (gives me something to strive for at least), but if they're happy...

[Jon Szanto]

:P Well you know..

Yeah, I do: all they are is opinions, and we all vary. BTW, your recent post made me want to correct an omission: I had listed repair people I'd used, and separated out the nib guys. I had a nice arch grind (as you did) from Dan Smith, but I just remembered he did a bang-up job doing a tricky Aurora 88P piston restoration for me, and I wanted to be sure to give him kudos.

When you put your shingle out, I'll send you all my Waterman Taperites to work on, deal? ;)

[kernando]

Ew, what is a San Francisco bush attack? Of all major American cities, San Francisco is probably the least into that kind of thing.

[Marsilius]

Ew, what is a San Francisco bush attack? Of all major American cities, San Francisco is probably the least into that kind of thing.

Bwahaha. How about clutch rings?

[Jon Szanto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nF7yhUp8UE

[mtsheehan]

None of it means anything - all Trojan Horses meant to distract you from taking on the main point, which is that Szanto in multiple forums has gone out of his way to say not so nice things about Sean who, compared to restorers who have been around 20 or so years, is relatively new to the scene. Why John does that is nasty imho and he should really just stop.

[mtsheehan]

It's worth noting that Szanto addressed none of the substance - falling for all of the Trojan Horses. He fails to discuss the main substance of the thread - who does superb restoration? I have 75 pens and experience with other restorers that demonstrates to me that Sean Nicholson is among the best, if not the best (I can't say the latter as I have not used every restorer in business).

[Cob]

Doing my best to control my ire, I should like to say that Mr Jon Szanto is an asset to every forum to which he contributes; reading his posts is always a pleasure.

Cob

[Sailor Kenshin]

Who ARE these people? O_o

I learned something new in this thread: when sending off a pen to be fixed in any way, be REALLY specific. I can see there might be pens I'd want re-sac'd but not 'polished to perfection.'

Useful.

[KBeezie]

When you put your shingle out, I'll send you all my Waterman Taperites to work on, deal? ;)

:P I have zilch experience with taperites, whether they be open or hooded nib. And I'm not going to be doing anything like cracks any time soon.

[fqgouvea]

I'm the OP, and no, I haven't run away, though I have at times regretted...

Thanks to those who suggested names. I will try some of them out!



Fernando Gouvêa -- fqgouvea@roadrunner.com

[Laura N]

None of it means anything - all Trojan Horses meant to distract you from taking on the main point, which is that Szanto in multiple forums has gone out of his way to say not so nice things about Sean who, compared to restorers who have been around 20 or so years, is relatively new to the scene. Why John does that is nasty imho and he should really just stop.


It's worth noting that Szanto addressed none of the substance - falling for all of the Trojan Horses. He fails to discuss the main substance of the thread - who does superb restoration? I have 75 pens and experience with other restorers that demonstrates to me that Sean Nicholson is among the best, if not the best (I can't say the latter as I have not used every restorer in business).

I judge a person, in part, by the company he keeps. Internet bullying, ad hominem attacks and the other things actually make it less likely that I'd use any particular business. I suspect I'm not alone. Your actions therefore are undercutting the business you are associated with.

[AltecGreen]

I'm the OP, and no, I haven't run away, though I have at times regretted...

Thanks to those who suggested names. I will try some of them out!



Fernando Gouvêa -- fqgouvea@roadrunner.com


I'm glad you are still here.

It would actually help to describe the problems your pens have because it will make recommending people easier. A nib problem is different than a bad sac.

[Jon Szanto]

I'm going to end my participation in this thread with one note: I was concerned last night with the destruction I had caused in the thread of someone who needed information. The OP assured me that he was not holding it against me and has learned of resources with which to consider his repair/restoration options. I feel confident that reasonable readers can take the thread for what it is, and make their own determinations. Unless I've got a pressing need to rebut any future comments directed at me (and not any childish, ad hominem stuff), I expect these to be my last words on the matter.

[mtsheehan]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/12/fe37658584f9dc53b76edbee2e18a65c.jpg

[Sailor Kenshin]

Come to me, sweet Ignore list!

[reprieve]

To respond to the OP's query, I have had excellent experience with Martin Ferguson of Martin's Pens (http://martinspens51.com/contact.htm). I don't think he's been mentioned in this thread yet, but I'm sure many folks here are familiar with his work, especially since he's a regular at many of the US pen shows. He restored two Parker Vacumatics and a Sheaffer Snorkel for me a couple of years ago and I was very impressed. He explained every step of the restoration to me, let me watch him work on my pens, and seemed very interested in teaching his skills to a new generation. He's very familiar with Parker pens, and if you've got a vintage Duofold, which I think the OP mentioned, that needs to be restored, I wouldn't hesitate to send it to Martin. I've also bought a couple of vintage pens from his table and they were all in perfect order. I've only interacted with him at pen shows, though, so I have no idea what his turnaround time is.

I've also used the services of (and have been very happy with): Joel Hamilton (he replaced the seal on one of my vintage Montblanc piston fillers); Ron Zorn (he resacced a bunch of Esterbrooks for me when I was new to fountain pens and didn't yet know how to do it myself); John Mottishaw (who I often recommend for nib work but who also does top-notch repairs and fixed my Omas's broken piston); and Gerry Berg (he restored my Sheaffer Tucky's shot plunger filler).

For nib work, all of my pens go to either Michael Masuyama or John Mottishaw.

I know there are many others out there who do very good work, but these are the folks who I've had first-hand experience with and who I trust with my most cherished pens and who I wouldn't hesitate to recommend to others.
(By the way, I am not affiliated with any pen business. I am only a satisfied customer of the above-mentioned folks.)

[dr.grace]

Good post, AltecGreen! By the way, who is the person you'd pick for repairing Japanese eyedroppers?

[Farmboy]

Good post, AltecGreen! By the way, who is the person you'd pick for repairing Japanese eyedroppers?

It is one of two people I can think of. As far as I know, neither of them participates in on-line venues, neither has a web site, and I don't believe either advertizes.

Which reminds me of something relevant.

[Hawk]

Mtsheehan,
Your last post, was it a selfie?

[dr.grace]

Good post, AltecGreen! By the way, who is the person you'd pick for repairing Japanese eyedroppers?

It is one of two people I can think of. As far as I know, neither of them participates in on-line venues, neither has a web site, and I don't believe either advertizes.

Which reminds me of something relevant.

What would be the harm in letting these people be known?

[folksathome]

:fans:

[AltecGreen]

Good post, AltecGreen! By the way, who is the person you'd pick for repairing Japanese eyedroppers?

I’m back from travel.

Eckiethump (Eric Wilson) in Scotland. The shipping and repair cost makes repairing the lower end no name Japanese eyedroppers a dicey proposition economically.







What would be the harm in letting these people be known?

Depending on the person, there are several reasons.


Many of the people we know do take in work from the public. However, they do not like the attention having their name out on the internet brings. They have a stable clientele and have no need to advertise. So we respect their privacy by not throwing their name out. They can do that themselves if they ever change their mind. On occasion I will recommend one of them back channel. In these cases, it is usually because the person needing work lives close by the person I have in mind.

Some others will only occasionally take work from the public. These people often have huge backlogs from collectors. There are a lot of collectors out there and they often send dozens of pens at the same time for repair. It is a different game when someone sends you 36 pens to fix and have no urgent need to get them back. As oppose to the one pen someone on the forum might send and expects immediate attention. Also, collectors who have been around understand that sometimes things go wrong. They just shrug it off and salvage the parts for another repair. A forum person will just post a complain on a forum. It is a different relationship.

The third case is a person who does not take public work at all. Many of these people are experts at specific brands and have specialized skills for fixing specific pens. They also tend to have rare parts. You have to know the person or have an introduction to get work done.



My general rule is that I will only mention a person online who I know advertises and accepts work from the public. I try to respect the privacy of those who do not advertise.

[dr.grace]

Thanks for the explanation. This was a foreign concept to me, as I've never been to a pen show and, in 25+ years of using fountain pens, have only bought them over the internet (with one local exception).