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Josephtibbetts
August 31st, 2015, 09:34 PM
I take my first steps into a much larger world....

I am starting to study copper plate under Joe Vitolo. I'm just waiting on my oblique holder and ink to come in :) The nibs arrives today. Wish me luck!!

Josephtibbetts
August 31st, 2015, 09:36 PM
Perhaps under is too strong a word, with the guidence of. Is probably better.

Laura N
September 1st, 2015, 04:07 PM
Good luck!

dannzeman
September 2nd, 2015, 11:01 AM
Be sure to take pics of your first attempts so you can see your improvement over time.

Josephtibbetts
September 3rd, 2015, 12:11 AM
Be sure to take pics of your first attempts so you can see your improvement over time.

I will Dan, I'm waiting on my holder to come in.

Laurie
September 8th, 2015, 03:21 PM
Hi Joseph,
I too am following your path and have been using Dr. Vitolo's tutorials on the IAMPTH website. I found the pen holders a bit too dear so I made my own. I will post a picture later today of my pen collection and my present practice sheets. I started off doing American roundhand but decided to go back to the traditional form of Engrossers scriptx so that I had a good basic. I can change and vary it after I get proficient at the basic. The most interesting part of this exercise is the collection of some good nibs. I have quite a collection now and probably too big to detail. The best nib I have is a Gillott 604EF but they are rare and expensive. I also have a few good Spencerian and Esterbrooks. But the nibs I like for learning and which are highly recommended are the Zebra G and the Nikko G. Both give the fine hairlines and the shaded downstrokes which are necessary in calligraphy. Also they are very easy to use and smooth on the paper.
Post some of your progress and it is good to half a fellow member following the same path. There is another one I know of. Cryptos.

Laurie
September 8th, 2015, 04:43 PM
Here is a picture of some of my pen holders. I in fact have 13 and I bought some blanks (the short ones) The other long ones I purchased are cheap art paint brush set (Mont Marte) and cut them down and then made some oblique holders from some brass sheeting. Cut a slit at an angle into the end of the holder and glued in the oblique brass sitting. Painted and and sealed and voila. There is a good Youtube clip by Yoke Pen Co where he explains how to make the obliques. Very simple.
My nib collection is getting quite large and I bought some from Ebay and various other sources.
Here is a list of some of my favoured ones: 1. Joseph Gillott 604 EF, 303 EF. Nikkopen G, John Mitchell 078 Commercial, John Mitchell 138 EF, Spencarian No. 5 and No. 2 Counting House Old. Also a Perry No. 104 EF is another great nib I have.
As for inks I bought some Walnut crystals and make my own. Also have some Higgins Eternal. Both excellent inks for dip pens. I use Rhodia paper but only use a good grade of printer paper for practice.
As for the writing here it is. I used a Nikko G for this writing. As you can see I have a long way to come but have noticed some improvement. Trouble is when you go slow while learning the shapes etc it is hard to get even straight lines. That seems to come when your speed increases.
Hope some of this is interesting
2122021221

Josephtibbetts
September 8th, 2015, 06:12 PM
Hi Joseph,
I too am following your path and have been using Dr. Vitolo's tutorials on the IAMPTH website. I found the pen holders a bit too dear so I made my own. I will post a picture later today of my pen collection and my present practice sheets. I started off doing American roundhand but decided to go back to the traditional form of Engrossers scriptx so that I had a good basic. I can change and vary it after I get proficient at the basic. The most interesting part of this exercise is the collection of some good nibs. I have quite a collection now and probably too big to detail. The best nib I have is a Gillott 604EF but they are rare and expensive. I also have a few good Spencerian and Esterbrooks. But the nibs I like for learning and which are highly recommended are the Zebra G and the Nikko G. Both give the fine hairlines and the shaded downstrokes which are necessary in calligraphy. Also they are very easy to use and smooth on the paper.
Post some of your progress and it is good to half a fellow member following the same path. There is another one I know of. Cryptos.

I will :) And thank you. I have 10 lenoard principal nibs in that order, plus another 20-30 40's esterbrook nibs in bound. So I have my choice of nibs. And I will, I've been talk to Joe a lot. It amazes me how willing he is to sit there for hours and just talk a newby threw everything they need to know.

Josephtibbetts
September 14th, 2015, 04:05 PM
Just got all of my supplies just before I left for work, so when I get home I'm going to mix my ink, prep my nibs and try it out.

Empty_of_Clouds
September 14th, 2015, 05:09 PM
Here is a picture of some of my pen holders. I in fact have 13 and I bought some blanks (the short ones) The other long ones I purchased are cheap art paint brush set (Mont Marte) and cut them down and then made some oblique holders from some brass sheeting. Cut a slit at an angle into the end of the holder and glued in the oblique brass sitting. Painted and and sealed and voila. There is a good Youtube clip by Yoke Pen Co where he explains how to make the obliques. Very simple.
My nib collection is getting quite large and I bought some from Ebay and various other sources.
Here is a list of some of my favoured ones: 1. Joseph Gillott 604 EF, 303 EF. Nikkopen G, John Mitchell 078 Commercial, John Mitchell 138 EF, Spencarian No. 5 and No. 2 Counting House Old. Also a Perry No. 104 EF is another great nib I have.
As for inks I bought some Walnut crystals and make my own. Also have some Higgins Eternal. Both excellent inks for dip pens. I use Rhodia paper but only use a good grade of printer paper for practice.
As for the writing here it is. I used a Nikko G for this writing. As you can see I have a long way to come but have noticed some improvement. Trouble is when you go slow while learning the shapes etc it is hard to get even straight lines. That seems to come when your speed increases.
Hope some of this is interesting
2122021221


Laurie, you are getting really good at this! I am impressed and more than a little envious of your skills.

Lady Onogaro
September 15th, 2015, 05:17 PM
Good job, Laurie. You have the patience I lack for this sort of thing. It's clearly paying off for you.

Empty_of_Clouds
September 15th, 2015, 07:17 PM
Laurie,

These just arrived in the post today (images from internet for illustration only)

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5730/21452967245_164dda555e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yFJ4KB)

J.B.Mallat Ronde 205



[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5779/21442008172_67b1fe2c9f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yEKU15)

Cie Francaise Sermajor No.5


I thought I would like to have a few broader edges in my small collection, although the Sermajor looks like a right-foot oblique. It will be interesting to have a go with these when I get home!

Josephtibbetts
September 18th, 2015, 08:09 PM
Here's hoping tonight I can find the energy to get up and prep my nibs when I get home.

Empty_of_Clouds
September 18th, 2015, 08:31 PM
So, how often do you get to sit down and chat with Dr Vitolo? Must be great having access to someone of that calibre. Over here there aren't even any enthusiast clubs, let alone any teachers. Talis vita est.

Josephtibbetts
September 18th, 2015, 11:53 PM
We just talk via Facebook almost every day. And it is great, knowing I can message him almost any time with a question and he'll more than likely know the answer.

Empty_of_Clouds
September 18th, 2015, 11:55 PM
Seems like you singularly privileged then. Lucky you. Perhaps you would like to post some pictures of your progress, like Laurie does?

Josephtibbetts
September 19th, 2015, 02:39 PM
Seems like you singularly privileged then. Lucky you. Perhaps you would like to post some pictures of your progress, like Laurie does?


I wouldn't say singularly. He'll do it for anyone who asks him. :)