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Lady Onogaro
February 21st, 2016, 12:11 PM
Hey,

Did you guys see this? A set of Kingdom Note "crustacia" inks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Sailor-x-KINGDOM-NOTE-Jentle-Ink-for-Fountain-Pen-Crustacea-5-Color-Set-/262297414619?hash=item3d1224ebdb:g:H3YAAOSwezVWxpw X


And there's also this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILOR-Jentle-Bottle-Ink-Fountain-Pen-Shosaikan-Shousaikan-Shinzan-Yellow-Green-/252292370105?hash=item3abdcc0eb9:g:s7IAAOSwzgRWxo6 q

migo984
February 21st, 2016, 01:03 PM
I've been watching the madness......:crazy_pilot:

Marsilius
February 21st, 2016, 01:04 PM
Wow. Now if it were Sailor Jentle Rikyu Cha . . . I can dream, can't I?

Dhruv
February 21st, 2016, 02:27 PM
And there are people willing to pay $400 for those inks. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $40 a bottle.

Someone on FPN said not to bid, and I'll just repeat that. It'll just encourage the a****** to do this more. This isn't much different from ink speculating.

Crazyorange
February 21st, 2016, 05:07 PM
What makes them unique? Not familiar with kingdom note.

sgtstretch
February 21st, 2016, 06:24 PM
What makes them unique? Not familiar with kingdom note.

They are similar to BungBox seasonal inks I believe. Only available at the Kingdom Note store.

migo984
February 21st, 2016, 10:23 PM
What makes them unique? Not familiar with kingdom note.

They are similar to BungBox seasonal inks I believe. Only available at the Kingdom Note store.

Not seasonal, however each run in the four series (5 bottles in each series), were made in limited quantities for the original production runs. It is the vase-shape bottles that drives up the prices, because of demand from Chinese buyers.

Crazyorange - you'd better take care of that bottles of Sweet Potato Purple! ;);)

Crazyorange
February 22nd, 2016, 03:39 AM
What makes them unique? Not familiar with kingdom note.

They are similar to BungBox seasonal inks I believe. Only available at the Kingdom Note store.

Not seasonal, however each run in the four series (5 bottles in each series), were made in limited quantities for the original production runs. It is the vase-shape bottles that drives up the prices, because of demand from Chinese buyers.

Crazyorange - you'd better take care of that bottles of Sweet Potato Purple! ;);)

It sits on a decorative shelf with the rest of vase shaped bottles from BB. "On display". I should post a pic later. I bought a special shelf to display the old BB bottles. Someone needs to make those bottles, because the sailor bottle is boring.

I'm still kicking myself in the ass....I should have bought one bottle of each color of BB when they were at the DC show....and they had the pretty bottles then ( banging head against wall). Duh!

migo984
February 22nd, 2016, 04:25 AM
It sits on a decorative shelf with the rest of vase shaped bottles from BB. "On display". I should post a pic later. I bought a special shelf to display the old BB bottles. Someone needs to make those bottles, because the sailor bottle is boring.

I'm still kicking myself in the ass....I should have bought one bottle of each color of BB when they were at the DC show....and they had the pretty bottles then ( banging head against wall). Duh!

Yeah - I know exactly how you feel :-( Hindsight is a pain in the same region you kick yourself!

I'd like to see your shelf with the vase shape bottles on display. I must admit mine are stored in old cardboard boxes, tucked away in a cupboard.

Lady Onogaro
February 22nd, 2016, 09:22 AM
They are still sitting at $396 and $151, but there's six days left. Think they will go higher?

I think someone is buying them for a group of people. What do you think?

jackokun
February 22nd, 2016, 10:00 AM
They are still sitting at $396 and $151, but there's six days left. Think they will go higher?

I think someone is buying them for a group of people. What do you think?

I think it will go higher, but most likely because of the hype. Even if you are buying for a group, you are still sitting at 80$ per bottle now which is insane.

Silverbreeze
February 22nd, 2016, 10:15 AM
Way too high

migo984
February 22nd, 2016, 10:31 AM
I think these will definitely go higher. A single bottle of ink fetched $185 recently. Chinese buyers pay four times the original price, just for an empty vase-shaped bottle. The five Kingdom Note bottles were originally only 2000 yen. It's like the Dutch Tulip Bubble all over again.

Bogon07
February 22nd, 2016, 02:42 PM
It is the vase-shape bottles that drives up the prices, because of demand from Chinese buyers.

It might be time to check out the local Asian grocery shops and see if there are any suitable bottles among the Chinese Medicines.

Crazyorange
February 22nd, 2016, 03:40 PM
It is the vase-shape bottles that drives up the prices, because of demand from Chinese buyers.

It might be time to check out the local Asian grocery shops and see if there are any suitable bottles among the Chinese Medicines.

I can you...yes...Chinese medicine bottles have interesting packaging. Of course the medicines inside might leave lingering odors. BB ink that smells like ben-gay. [emoji6]

Lady Onogaro
February 29th, 2016, 08:30 PM
Here's another one up for bid. Right now it's at $62.00, but it has 3 days left:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILOR-Jentle-Bottle-Ink-of-Fountain-Pen-Ishida-Bung-Hakodate-Gagome-Brown-Green-/262307651755?hash=item3d12c120ab:g:gnsAAOSwx-9Wz7x7

Did you see that the winning bid for the 8 bottle set was $511.00? The single bottle of the yellow green went for $153.50. Crazy!

Lady Onogaro
February 29th, 2016, 08:34 PM
Here's one for Maruzen (I think it must still be Sailor ink, though):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARUZEN-Athena-Bottle-Ink-for-Fountain-Pen-Eternal-Blue-New-50ml-Japan/262307647232?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35626%26meid%3Dbfd9a64f7ce64a9cad6e7d537005 d38b%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D252 292370105

Chrissy
March 1st, 2016, 01:21 AM
Here's one for Maruzen (I think it must still be Sailor ink, though):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARUZEN-Athena-Bottle-Ink-for-Fountain-Pen-Eternal-Blue-New-50ml-Japan/262307647232?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35626%26meid%3Dbfd9a64f7ce64a9cad6e7d537005 d38b%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D252 292370105

It is still made by Sailor. Maruzen has their own inks, like Kingdom Note, Bung Box and Pen & Message

Crazyorange
March 1st, 2016, 05:13 AM
I'm guessing part of the allure to these inks is the bottle. I'm surprised sailor isn't figuring out a manufacturer to produce them again. Has anyone heard anything?

Dhruv
March 1st, 2016, 09:18 AM
The manufacturer has gone under.
The supply is hard to get for these bottles so unless the shops switch to the jar/flat top/jentle ink bottles, the shop will have limited supply which would be unpredictable. The limited supply would be enough to serve Japan, but definitely not outsiders.

Chrissy
March 1st, 2016, 09:22 AM
Perhaps someone will realise the potential and pick up the baton for producing them.

KKay
March 1st, 2016, 01:46 PM
It is a shame that they cannot find a glass maker company to do these for them. They could put the word out on what they are looking for, in glass manufacturing companies worldwide. These companies may not realize that there is a demand for these type of bottles!

migo984
March 1st, 2016, 11:57 PM
It's not that they can't be made. There are already manufacturers capable of producing these ink bottles. The issue is that they can't be made at, or near, the original price that Sailor was paying for them.

Lady O - it was a 5 bottle set of Kingdom Note inks, not 8 bottles, which makes the $511 even more ridiculous. Makes it tempting to sell my full set of the four series of KN inks though! How much might I get for all 20 bottles? LOL.
(seriously, I won't ever sell. I love using the inks too much).

Lady Onogaro
March 2nd, 2016, 06:29 PM
Well, the floodgates are opening:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sailor-Jentile-Bungbox-Espresso-Brown-Ink-in-older-rare-bottle-fountain-pen-/262311720285?hash=item3d12ff355d:g:8sUAAOSwuAVW00m 9

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sailor-Jentile-Bungbox-Fish-Purple-Ink-in-older-rare-bottle-fountain-pen/262311724374?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35626%26meid%3D6a35b6ad345b48568160386ea424 0384%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D2623 11720285

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sailor-Jentile-Bungbox-omaezaki-sky-blue-in-older-rare-fountain-pen-bottle/151999267200?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35626%26meid%3D41c769ba3ad345dda90b5557e99b b817%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D2623 11724374

Crazyorange
March 2nd, 2016, 06:33 PM
That's crazy. $71 for tipsy??? It's a glass bottle..for gods sake. [emoji849]

VertOlive
March 2nd, 2016, 08:07 PM
And they have the nerve to charge shipping...

Chrissy
March 3rd, 2016, 02:26 AM
If people are rich enough and desperate enough to pay those prices, then sellers are bound to step up and provide a supply. It makes good business sense to do so.

It's a bit like some of the Montblanc LE inks, e.g. Sakura. Some go for crazy prices, but only because there are people who are prepared to pay them.

I noticed a regular ebay ink seller who listed 5 bottles of Mb Leonardo that all sold at a higher price than I would have been prepared to pay. However, he then got greedy and really hiked up his already high price for his next listing, plus other sellers came in with bottles at similarly high prices, but they didn't sell. Nor will they sell until these sellers work out that there is a price ceiling above which buyers won't pay.

Once the original flurry of people willing and able to pay ridiculously high prices has been satisfied, the prices will probably settle back down again. :)

migo984
March 3rd, 2016, 03:53 AM
There's a huge Chinese demand for these inks. Even the empty bottles sell for high prices on their equivalent of eBay. There is also an informal network of Chinese buyers trying to find certain inks/bottles/labels & nab them before they get to market. I have been contacted 5 times, via FPG & FPN members, by Chinese "spotters", alerted that I have certain bottles. When I put up a classified to trade one of my bottles of Sweet Potato Purple I was swamped with messages. I could have sold for well over $130 if I'd had a mind to do so.

Yes, it is a "tulip bulb" market bubble & it will fizzle out eventually, but there are still many buyers, with plenty of money to spend, who will keep the prices inflated for a while yet, or until Sailor (possibly) start using vase bottles again, and start producing in bigger volumes.

Ps if you've got any of the cream-coloured cap vase bottles you could be sitting on a gold mine LOL ;-)

Lady Onogaro
March 9th, 2016, 03:49 PM
Oh, this purple looks very nice (but not THAT nice):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Maruzen-Athena-Bottle-Ink-of-Fountain-Pen-Nihombashi-Murasaki-Purple-Violet-/252311747495?hash=item3abef3bba7:g:kBgAAOSwP~tW3O5 8

And here's a green for VertOlive:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Sailor-Jentle-Bottle-Ink-for-Fountain-Pen-SankoDo-Nagoya-Forest-Green-50ml/262318844457?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3D50ac1a62061f49279a0a5ad548be aeb1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D2523 11747495

One of the mushrooms is cheap right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sailor-Jentle-Ink-of-Fountain-Pen-KINGDOM-NOTE-Mushroom-Trametes-Versicolor-Blue/262318823027?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3D7142bd8a883a4875a5c418f4c766 65e9%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D2623 18844457

I doubt any of them will go as high as this Montblanc Cherry Blossom:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MONTBLANC-Limited-Edition-2007-Cherry-Blossom-Scented-Ink-SAKURA-Red/222041759045?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3Daf1dfa7351534b67b7412d0ca9af cd8a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D2623 18823027

Crazyorange
March 9th, 2016, 04:07 PM
[emoji15].....[emoji848]truly baffled. But I don't have an unlimited budget.

migo984
March 9th, 2016, 05:20 PM
Oh, this purple looks very nice (but not THAT nice):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Maruzen-Athena-Bottle-Ink-of-Fountain-Pen-Nihombashi-Murasaki-Purple-Violet-/252311747495?hash=item3abef3bba7:g:kBgAAOSwP~tW3O5 8

And here's a green for VertOlive:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Sailor-Jentle-Bottle-Ink-for-Fountain-Pen-SankoDo-Nagoya-Forest-Green-50ml/262318844457?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3D50ac1a62061f49279a0a5ad548be aeb1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D2523 11747495

One of the mushrooms is cheap right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sailor-Jentle-Ink-of-Fountain-Pen-KINGDOM-NOTE-Mushroom-Trametes-Versicolor-Blue/262318823027?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3D7142bd8a883a4875a5c418f4c766 65e9%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D2623 18844457

I doubt any of them will go as high as this Montblanc Cherry Blossom:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MONTBLANC-Limited-Edition-2007-Cherry-Blossom-Scented-Ink-SAKURA-Red/222041759045?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D35853%26meid%3Daf1dfa7351534b67b7412d0ca9af cd8a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D2623 18823027

That Trametes Versicolor shows the value of the ink v. the bottle. Crikey - it's just a bit of glass :-/

Crazyorange
March 9th, 2016, 05:34 PM
I don't know about you....but I've been looking for a nice guy to put Sailor glass vase bottle on my finger. [emoji6]

Lady Onogaro
March 10th, 2016, 09:36 AM
Sakura's now at $201 this morning. The purple Maruzen has jumpted to $151.

Silverbreeze
March 10th, 2016, 10:48 AM
I don't know about you....but I've been looking for a nice guy to put Sailor glass vase bottle on my finger. [emoji6]

I have seen gold rings nice ones cheaper then these inks