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adhoc
December 7th, 2016, 11:26 AM
Hello,

I saw the M800 with brown tortoise finish was last available in 2013, if I'm correct. Does anybody know when was the model available prior to this? I want one, but they are nowhere to be found. Is it reasonable to say they might be coming in a year or a few?

Thanks for any input!
Best regards.

Pterodactylus
December 7th, 2016, 12:25 PM
If you like the Tortoise pens (you could easily get a M800 in a different color so I assume you are primarily interested in the brown Tortoise style)
you could also get a vintage Tortoise, which by the way outperform any modern pen by far.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5634/22535419690_d186db23f0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AknV9N)
Show_response_787 (https://flic.kr/p/AknV9N) by Ptero Pterodactylus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/117783735@N07/), auf Flickr

(Pelikan 400NN Brown Tortoise - OB ..... Iroshizuku Asa Goa)

mulrich
December 7th, 2016, 04:09 PM
All you ever wanted to know about Pelikan tortoise finishes can be found here: https://thepelikansperch.com/2014/09/07/a-treatise-on-the-modern-tortoise-1980-2014/

Looks like 25 years between M800 tortoise releases.

adhoc
December 8th, 2016, 12:22 AM
@Pterodactylus thanks! That looks beautiful. Yes, I'm really interested in the brown tortoise finish. I'm afraid M400 would be too small for my hand, however. M800 would probably be a better fit, because M400 is 15 mm shorter than a Lamy 2000, which sits nicely in my hand. Not sure, what do you think? I haven't had the possibility to try them out. I'd have to drive over the border to Graz for a nearest store to try them out, which I just might do. Nice penmanship, neighbor!

@mulrich thanks for that link. Yeah, looks like a lot of time, so it's not exactly something to wait for, if we consider the trend from the past.

EDIT: Actually, after checking comparison pictures, the M400 looks very similar to L2K in terms of size. Anyone has both to give some input on it, maybe?

The Good Captain
December 8th, 2016, 01:59 AM
I have a modern 800 and the modern 400. Both fabulous pens but I don't really want to get a 600, should Pelikan ever release one.

fountainpenkid
December 15th, 2016, 10:41 AM
How about a tortoise in the much-underrpresented M300 size? ;) (Does anyone actually use one?)

sconny
January 16th, 2017, 03:36 PM
I've got an M800 EF tortoise I was planning to sell. Pm me if you are interested.

Denizzz
February 2nd, 2017, 11:04 PM
well, are you sure you want to pay a price premium of 300% just because it is a Brown Tortoise, rather then pay 300-350 $ for a normal M800 with same features? i wanted this pen as well, but after i realised the difference in prices i would rather get a MB 149, MB 146, M800 Toledo or even a Montegrappa Extra with solid silver parts in tortoise brown colour. (sometimes it can be found for less than retail price)

https://chatterleyluxuries.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Montegrappa-Extra-Fountain-Pen-Turtle-Brown3.jpg

adhoc
February 2nd, 2017, 11:27 PM
No, of course not. I have since bought an M400 brown tortoise. I was only asking for M800 because I was thinking M400 would be too small for my hands. Well, it fits perfectly. I have since forgotten about the M800 brown tortoise.

Knight
February 3rd, 2017, 09:21 AM
I'm also "hunting" M800 brown, and i realized a lot of seller really "greedy" they sell 300%++ and act like that price is normal without guilty feeling lol..

But I'm pretty sure I will get it one day with reasonable price. Someone will sell it soon or later.

sconny
February 14th, 2017, 09:56 AM
I'm also "hunting" M800 brown, and i realized a lot of seller really "greedy" they sell 300%++ and act like that price is normal without guilty feeling lol..

But I'm pretty sure I will get it one day with reasonable price. Someone will sell it soon or later.

Not sure what price you think is "greedy" when they were pretty much sold out as far as new stock over a year ago and they were going for around $700 new when in stock.

Expect to pay at least $900 to get one in decent shape. You may find a beat up one on ebay for $500-$700. Good luck.

mulrich
February 14th, 2017, 09:20 PM
Someone just posted a modern M800 in the classifieds for $1200

Knight
February 15th, 2017, 12:45 AM
last month i saw someone try to sell it $1.500

qsnc
March 13th, 2017, 01:59 AM
It will depend on the condition, but in near-mint I have seen it for for $1500 upwards. So glad I got mine for a decent price back then :)

Dhruv
October 21st, 2017, 11:54 AM
I got one last month for about $600. Used, but still brand new. Didn't look like it was ever used.

Dhruv
October 28th, 2017, 02:20 PM
Got another one today for a bit less than $300. Has some scratches on cap though.

SIR
November 1st, 2017, 06:32 AM
Found one... 800, mint condition w/papers.
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/shop/pelikan-m800-special-edition-brown-tortoise-shell-fountain-pen-medium-nib-395-copy/
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MG_5225.jpg

adhoc
November 3rd, 2017, 12:42 PM
Got another one today for a bit less than $300. Has some scratches on cap though.

That's really an incredible price...congrats.

Dhruv
November 3rd, 2017, 03:54 PM
If you like the Tortoise pens (you could easily get a M800 in a different color so I assume you are primarily interested in the brown Tortoise style)
you could also get a vintage Tortoise, which by the way outperform any modern pen by far.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5634/22535419690_d186db23f0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AknV9N)
Show_response_787 (https://flic.kr/p/AknV9N) by Ptero Pterodactylus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/117783735@N07/), auf Flickr

(Pelikan 400NN Brown Tortoise - OB ..... Iroshizuku Asa Goa)

How do they outperform modern pens?

Dhruv
November 3rd, 2017, 03:55 PM
Got another one today for a bit less than $300. Has some scratches on cap though.

That's really an incredible price...congrats.


Thank you. :)
There is a brand new one here (In India) for about $425 with M nib. But I'm cheap, so I'll take the sub-$300 one. :)

Dhruv
November 3rd, 2017, 03:56 PM
Found one... 800, mint condition w/papers.
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/shop/pelikan-m800-special-edition-brown-tortoise-shell-fountain-pen-medium-nib-395-copy/
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MG_5225.jpg

At that price, I would rather get a Conid.

SIR
November 3rd, 2017, 05:43 PM
Found one... 800, mint condition w/papers.
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/shop/pelikan-m800-special-edition-brown-tortoise-shell-fountain-pen-medium-nib-395-copy/
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MG_5225.jpg

At that price, I would rather get a Conid.

At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

Pterodactylus
November 4th, 2017, 01:22 AM
Found one... 800, mint condition w/papers.
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/shop/pelikan-m800-special-edition-brown-tortoise-shell-fountain-pen-medium-nib-395-copy/
http://www.vintageandmodernpens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MG_5225.jpg

At that price, I would rather get a Conid.

At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

Which civilized modern non extremist person would need a rifle?
Get some pens and forget that crap....

SIR
November 4th, 2017, 03:48 AM
At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

Which civilized modern non extremist person would need a rifle?
Get some pens and forget that crap....

Not sure if...

adhoc
November 4th, 2017, 05:01 AM
At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

Which civilized modern non extremist person would need a rifle?
Get some pens and forget that crap....

Not sure if...

"How dare you liking things I don't like?!"

(P.S.: I'm not even into rifles, I've never shot a gun in my life, but holier-than-thou attitude some have is absolutely mind boggling to me)

Dhruv
November 4th, 2017, 09:25 AM
At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

I didn't know that rifles were this cheap. :o

BayesianPrior
November 4th, 2017, 09:29 AM
Got another one today for a bit less than $300. Has some scratches on cap though.

That's really an incredible price...congrats.


Thank you. :)
There is a brand new one here (In India) for about $425 with M nib. But I'm cheap, so I'll take the sub-$300 one. :)

I reckon you could almost double your money if you bought a Pelikan M800 Tortoise Brown for $425 and sold it here.

Heck, you could probably sell the sub-$300 for about $600 and keep the brand new pen.

SIR
November 4th, 2017, 11:39 AM
At that price, I could buy a new rifle and a good one too ;).

Which civilized modern non extremist person would need a rifle?
Get some pens and forget that crap....

Not sure if...

"How dare you liking things I don't like?!"

(P.S.: I'm not even into rifles, I've never shot a gun in my life, but holier-than-thou attitude some have is absolutely mind boggling to me)

I suspect, though I may be wrong, that Ptero was joking; but yeah, there is a lot of that kind of judgmentalism about when guns get mentioned... a pen would be an inefficient and inhumane tool for controlling pests and putting food in the freezer.

Dhruv
November 4th, 2017, 01:22 PM
I reckon you could almost double your money if you bought a Pelikan M800 Tortoise Brown for $425 and sold it here.

Heck, you could probably sell the sub-$300 for about $600 and keep the brand new pen.

Of course, I know how much these pens can go for.
Can easily sell the brand new one for $900 and the sub-$300 for $500-600. I let one of my friend pick up the $425 one. I'd rather let someone who really wants it to get it than make money off it.
I'd be more than happy to let others know if I find any more locally at reasonable prices.

mulrich
November 4th, 2017, 01:23 PM
a pen would be an inefficient and inhumane tool for controlling pests and putting food in the freezer.

And just think what that would do to the nib

SIR
November 4th, 2017, 01:56 PM
a pen would be an inefficient and inhumane tool for controlling pests and putting food in the freezer.

And just think what that would do to the nib

indeed!