Need help identifying

[Stickler]

Does anyone have any ideas?? I am thinking it is an eye dropper from the late 1880s.. maybe yes??

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[Deb]

In the Max Davis and Gary Lehrer Waterman book, your pen resembles number 6 on page 17. They describe it as a "straight holder pen" and date it to circa 1883 to 1908.

[Robert]

Not exactly on topic, but I really like the copper tone pen holder in your pictures. What can you tell us about it?

[Stickler]

Not exactly on topic, but I really like the copper tone pen holder in your pictures. What can you tell us about it?

I got it at a pen show in Cambridge. The gentleman is in Scotland, but I don't recall his name. I am sure you can find it. It was about 15GBP or $20.

[Stickler]

In the Max Davis and Gary Lehrer Waterman book, your pen resembles number 6 on page 17. They describe it as a "straight holder pen" and date it to circa 1883 to 1908.

That is really informative.. thank you. I wish it had a stamp on it to make it easier to identify. Someone else thinks it is a No 2 Spoon Feeder.. but I thought it looked more like the 1884 patent. Just don't know.. I will look for the book!

[kirchh]

In the Max Davis and Gary Lehrer Waterman book, your pen resembles number 6 on page 17. They describe it as a "straight holder pen" and date it to circa 1883 to 1908.

That is really informative.. thank you. I wish it had a stamp on it to make it easier to identify. Someone else thinks it is a No 2 Spoon Feeder.. but I thought it looked more like the 1884 patent. Just don't know.. I will look for the book!

There are two 1884 Waterman patents, but they apply only to the ink-feeding system, so I'm not sure in what regard you mean that your pen looks like those patents. Note that the feed style itself is called a Spoon Feed by Waterman; your pen has that style feed, which dates it to the early 1900s (the model would not be called a "No. 2 Spoon Feeder"). The cap has either been repaired or it is from a different pen.

The Waterman book is a poor guide for accurate naming and dating information; it's hit-or-miss, with no citations, making the accuracy of any particular claim impossible to verify. I wouldn't rely on it too much.

--Daniel