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Elbonny
September 17th, 2017, 07:57 AM
Hi All,

I am wondering what the difference is between the Pilot Falcon FE-18SR-RSF and the FE-25SR-RSF SKU's?

Both of these are Soft Fine nibs, but what is the meaning of the '18' and the '25'?

Appreciate any links or explanation that explain it.

Thank you

Wile E Coyote
September 17th, 2017, 04:09 PM
18 is the resin version, 25 is the metal.

Elbonny
September 17th, 2017, 05:36 PM
18 is the resin version, 25 is the metal.

Ah... Thank you

Driften
September 20th, 2017, 12:58 PM
One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.

Cyril
October 4th, 2017, 12:42 PM
One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.

I bought this resin Version and wating for the delivary. I am now a bit disappointed as it dosenot take the Con-70. (70m) Ink. But It take Con-50 (50m) ink. which is less.

Driften
October 4th, 2017, 12:55 PM
One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.

I bought this resin Version and wating for the delivary. I am now a bit disappointed as it dosenot take the Con-70. (70m) Ink. But It take Con-50 (50m) ink. which is less.

You can always refill a cartridge. That will hold more then the con-40/con-50. Also you might be able to find some con-20 squeeze converters those also hold more then a con-50.

JunkyardSam
October 4th, 2017, 06:27 PM
For anyone interested (Cyril?) -- Driften's suggestion to use a cartridge may sound disappointing at first... but there's another advantage of the resin Falcon over the Metal:

I have both, and while some people like the heaviness of the metal Falcon I find it to be somewhat fatiguing. I can write and draw for hours with no fatigue with a 10g resin Falcon. Amazing. The metal Falcon is gorgeous but hurts my hand after a while and the balance is such that I have to hold it very far back, posted, to be comfortable.

Refilling cartridges is a little annoying -- but if we could somehow come up with some kind of plug to reseal a Pilot Cartridge we could make a batch of 10 and arguably be better off than having to refill a con-70!

JonSzanto once suggested hot glue to seal a cartridge. This works great for universal cartridges but unfortunately Pilot carts have a very wide hole and the hot glue becomes a mess. But maybe there's a rubber stopper which could seal them up without expanding the plastic of the cartridge opening.

grainweevil
October 5th, 2017, 03:19 AM
The joy of Pilot cartridges is they come with a plug, or rather a disk, that can be reused to reseal them. They're, I think, the only ones that do. Just fish it out of the empty cart, refill same, then pop the disk back in to reseal. Here's a vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGf0YltdO1U) that conveys the gist.

JunkyardSam
October 6th, 2017, 02:52 PM
Wow. People trust that to reseal? I always removed that disc assuming the re-seal wouldn't be sound...

I was hoping for something more similar to a cork shaped insert that I could just push in. But I'll try it with that rotating disc, as you suggest. Thanks.

ethernautrix
October 6th, 2017, 03:44 PM
There's a video showing how to refill and re-seal a Pilot cartridge... and I thought the link was in this thread. Roops!

I have only two resin Falcons/Elabos... and I like them very much. SEF, both. That's all I wanted to say. *Smiley face*

countrydirt
November 4th, 2017, 07:11 PM
I just received a resin Elabo - SEF. Stand by (well, go ahead and have a seat because I have to use it for a few days/weeks before I can give an honest review) for a review. First impression? I like it even if it is a little lighter than I expected.

Sailor Kenshin
November 5th, 2017, 07:48 AM
Wow. People trust that to reseal? I always removed that disc assuming the re-seal wouldn't be sound...

I was hoping for something more similar to a cork shaped insert that I could just push in. But I'll try it with that rotating disc, as you suggest. Thanks.

Dab of hot glue. Just sayin'.

mbp
January 2nd, 2018, 12:38 PM
I, too, felt that the metal falcon felt a bit heavy when drawing for extended periods. I'm considering getting a resin falcon because of how great the nib was for drawing.