Sheaffer pygmy overlay in the basket weave pattern

[sloegin]

Also I picked up a pen you and Roger want.

[david i]

I was sitting with Roger Wooten for an hour looking at pens this afternoon at the Chicago Pen Show. Which pen did you find that both of us would like? I can distract him and sneak over to grab it... ;)

regards

daivd

[sloegin]

Basket weave pygmy.

[david i]

You grabbed a basket weave Pigmy (Sheaffer pens were not "Pygmy". That would be too easy)? Nice find. Pretty sure I have one and suspect Roger as well, but that really is a great pen. Let me see if I can hunt a shot I posted at FPB...

regards

david

[sloegin]

Sheaffer pygmy overlay in the basket weave pattern.

[david i]

Hi Jeremy,

The basketweave pattern is a scarce pen. I think I have the small #2 size, which might be the Pigmy. I'm hazier on what constitutes a Pigmy metal Sheaffer than on the plastic, as there are so many metal sizes, and the Pigmy metal is fatter than the 2 #1 pens. I have I believe the pen you describe, also recently found on ebay. Here is a shot (done before my most recent find) of some 1920's Sheaffer metal pens in this uncommon and appealing pattern.

http://vacumania.com/penteech2/sheaffer_flattop_metal_basketweave_trio950.jpg

regards

david

[sloegin]

Ok, not basket weave pattern, don't know what pattern is called. David N.'s post here (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/298-sheaffers-blue-pigmy/page__view__findpost__p__1658). My post here (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1395-sheaffer-metal-pens-1920s-a-mini-collection/page__view__findpost__p__24501).

[fountainpenkid]

Pygmy...awwwww...that is too cute a name! (Makes my think of all sorts of tiny creatures one can see at a zoo that are called "pygmy."
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6wr7f4BYO1rugideo1_500.jpg
^^These monkeys are quite fun to watch the behavior of...it is more complex than one might think.
http://www.zooborns.com/.a/6a010535647bf3970b0133f2e1026a970b-800wi
^^I don't know where to start.

[david i]

Hi Will.

Pigmy, not Pygmy.

regards

david

[sloegin]

Interesting stuff. I'm not familiar with the period copy, is it always refereed to as 'pigmy' or does the spelling variate? Also two basket weave patterns?...link (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2151-rare-sheaffer-metal-long-midget-basketweave-pen/page__p__11553__hl__pygmy__fromsearch__1#entry1155 3).

The metal and plastic py/igmy should share a lever shape.

[david i]

Interesting stuff. I'm not familiar with the period copy, is it always refereed to as 'pigmy' or does the spelling variate? Also two basket weave patterns?...link (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2151-rare-sheaffer-metal-long-midget-basketweave-pen/page__p__11553__hl__pygmy__fromsearch__1#entry1155 3).

The metal and plastic py/igmy should share a lever shape.

Roger can do better with flat-end Sheaffer era than can I, but my belief is the proper spelling for this pen is Pigmy. In casual internet chat, often it is misspelled.

Which possible other basketweave pattern (besides the one I offered) were you considering?

regards

david

[sloegin]

In my last post, the three py/igmys, in PatM's post appear to be a ribbon, a basket weave, and a pattern I don't know. Followed by a non-py/igmy of the same pattern, followed by your basket weave and another ribbon. In several posts maybe related to that thread or not, Roger refers to the basket weave as No.1 and maybe No.2. I am not familiar with the original copy so I defer to others.

[kaisnowbird]

Hi Jeremy,

The basketweave pattern is a scarce pen. I think I have the small #2 size, which might be the Pigmy. I'm hazier on what constitutes a Pigmy metal Sheaffer than on the plastic, as there are so many metal sizes, and the Pigmy metal is fatter than the 2 #1 pens. I have I believe the pen you describe, also recently found on ebay. Here is a shot (done before my most recent find) of some 1920's Sheaffer metal pens in this uncommon and appealing pattern.

http://vacumania.com/penteech2/sheaffer_flattop_metal_basketweave_trio950.jpg

regards

david

Now that's a gorgeous pattern! :clap2:

[david i]

Ok, not basket weave pattern, don't know what pattern is called. David N.'s post here (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/298-sheaffers-blue-pigmy/page__view__findpost__p__1658). My post here (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1395-sheaffer-metal-pens-1920s-a-mini-collection/page__view__findpost__p__24501).

Jeremy, that wave pattern might have a name by Sheaffer, though I don't know it off hand. Chased black pens commonly and metal pens sometimes have that sort of chasing. Often it is referred to as scalloped or seagull pattern.

regards

david

[david i]

Hi again Jeremy,

Please note, that we might be describing different pens, not just different patterns. The smallest plastic pens were Pigmies. The thinnest metal pens with #1 nibs were not Pigmeys, though they were narrower. They were Midgets. In this pic Roger had posted, the three metal pens are Midgets, flanked by plastic Pigmies. There were #2-nibbed metal Pigmies as well.


Plastic Pigmeys and Metal Midgets


http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/ones2.jpg

regards

david

[sloegin]

I didn't see your follow-up post until now. PatM posted this (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2151-rare-sheaffer-metal-long-midget-basketweave-pen/page__view__findpost__p__11553) photo of the metal pigmies. Pigmies have the tabbed lever, the others do not, is my understanding. This (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1395-sheaffer-metal-pens-1920s-a-mini-collection/page__view__findpost__p__5860) post, third picture, depicts Roger's metal pigmy.

[david i]

I didn't see your follow-up post until now. PatM posted this (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2151-rare-sheaffer-metal-long-midget-basketweave-pen/page__view__findpost__p__11553) photo of the metal pigmies. Pigmies have the tabbed lever, the others do not, is my understanding. This (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1395-sheaffer-metal-pens-1920s-a-mini-collection/page__view__findpost__p__5860) post, third picture, depicts Roger's metal pigmy.

Hi Jeremy,

From one of the posts that involved Roger, Pat Mohan and me, over at FPB, about the Pigmies, here is a shot showing an ultra-thin metal Midget (as per above), along with a slightly shorter but well fatter Pigmy. This might address the lever shape issue, about which I had forgotten until you reminded me.


http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/pigmy5.jpg

regards

David

[sloegin]

Yes. So I may have been totally off calling it basket weave, but it is unequivocally a pigmy. The pen in my possession:
http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/uploads/1367268820/gallery_10627_157_123219.jpg

[Roger W.]

Nice! Yes, it is a pigmy - I usually spell it wrong. Craig chasing per the 1925 catalog. I only have the one so I would have liked to have found this one. David's pic is my pic of a midget #1 with a metal pigmy.



Roger W.