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proteus
November 26th, 2018, 02:04 PM
I have a question please.

Does anyone here actually own a coloured Parker 45 Coronet.

Not a standard common Flighter – silver or gold version.

They were produced in the late 1960’s at Arrow Park, Janesville.
There are no records of any Newhaven production that I am aware of.

Any photography of your pen would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks.

Nb : the photography shown are ‘ lifts ‘ from others
( The last one – early prototypes )

Chrissy
November 26th, 2018, 02:48 PM
I have 1 black and 1 grey Coronet. Both made in the USA. Edited to add better pictures now taken during daylight. :)

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migo984
November 26th, 2018, 03:02 PM
I have a pale green Coronet. Could post photo tomorrow if required.

christof
November 26th, 2018, 10:08 PM
mines:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/28408289074_9d5789da43_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/KhkUBu)Parker_45_Coronet_Gray von -C.M.Z- (https://flic.kr/p/KhkUBu)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/635/21253880902_cb25a1ee38_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yo8Gjs)Parker 45 Coronet Brown von -C.M.Z- (https://flic.kr/p/yo8Gjs)

Chrissy
November 26th, 2018, 11:49 PM
Christof that brown one is a lovely colour. :)

I think your grey one is now my grey one that I bought from you. I see the same tiny mark on the Parker logo.

migo984
November 27th, 2018, 03:34 AM
I forgot that, as well as my green Coronet, my partner has a grey one, same as christof’s above.

Here’s a quick snap of them:

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christof
November 27th, 2018, 05:15 AM
you're right Chrissy. the pen WAS mine. the picture still IS :)

once, I also HAD a blue one

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4853/45348607144_d92711c130_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2c6isYY)Parker 45 Coronet_blue (https://flic.kr/p/2c6isYY) by c_m_z (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61764212@N02/), auf Flickr
c.

titrisol
November 27th, 2018, 06:32 AM
Those are awesome!
I'm a P45 fan

Deb
November 27th, 2018, 08:04 AM
I haven't had any of these. They're very attractive.

proteus
November 27th, 2018, 12:24 PM
A great many thanks to Chrissy, christof & migo984

Your pens and photography look spectacular.

I have never owned one mainly because their prices where usually more than Harlequins - They were always my passion – the first pens I ever collected.

Can you please confirm that the Cap and Upper shell ( Barrel ) on all the pens shown are Aluminium.

Have add a photograph of the original box for these pens ( ‘Lifts’ - not mine - first 2 )

I have another question please.

Does anyone know anything about a Wilson version of this pen, they appear to be only a grid pattern.

The clutch ring is very different – it is printed – CORONET WILSON ( Last 3 of my ' lifts ' ).


A great many thanks again.

Chrissy
November 27th, 2018, 12:29 PM
The Wilson Coronet is not a Parker. It's a copy of a Parker

proteus
November 27th, 2018, 01:02 PM
Many thanks, Chrissy.

Please can you confirm your Coronet bodies are Aluminum.

I hate to be a pain, please can you tell me how you know Wilson Coronets are copies.

( Have a vast collection of fakes, never encountered one that is this early )

Where they were made, dates of production, have you ever seen one and had a good look at it.

Chrissy
November 27th, 2018, 01:59 PM
Many thanks, Chrissy.

Please can you confirm your Coronet bodies are Aluminum.

I hate to be a pain, please can you tell me how you know Wilson Coronets are copies.

( Have a vast collection of fakes, never encountered one that is this early )

Where they were made, dates of production, have you ever seen one and had a good look at it.


Wilson Coronets are made in India. I once asked about them on another forum. Type "Wilson Coronet" into Google and you will be able to find the thread.

I was advised by Hari who is an acknowledged expert: ".... it was a Wilson made in India. They used to make pens copied from Parker. " and
"Wilson is (was?) a company based in India that copied the style of several Parker models, including the 45 and 51. So these pens are not genuine Parker, they are Parker clones."

There's this Soumitra blog site about them too (https://soumitrapencollections.blogspot.com/2013/12/vintage-wilson-coronet.html) Plus several other sites.

Authentic Parker Coronet bodies are aluminium. The special large rectangular Parker logo on their cap confirms they are Coronets, and those with that logo are aluminium.

proteus
November 28th, 2018, 12:03 PM
Chrissy,

Thank you for your information, it was very kind of you.

Because of it, I now have all the information I would wish to know about the Wilson Pen Company, Bombay, India.

They copied Parker Vac’s, 61’s, 75’s & 45’s.

I now have photography of all of them – it is not appropriate to show them here.

Farmboy
November 28th, 2018, 07:43 PM
Metal 45s have tended to accumulate over the years.

This box was uncovered while I was looking for something else.

Thought I'd snap a picture for you.

Farmboy

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Chrissy
November 29th, 2018, 12:01 AM
Chrissy,

Thank you for your information, it was very kind of you.

Because of it, I now have all the information I would wish to know about the Wilson Pen Company, Bombay, India.

They copied Parker Vac’s, 61’s, 75’s & 45’s.

I now have photography of all of them – it is not appropriate to show them here.
You're welcome. :)

Chrissy
November 29th, 2018, 12:04 AM
Metal 45s have tended to accumulate over the years.

This box was uncovered while I was looking for something else.

Thought I'd snap a picture for you.

Farmboy
Wow Farmboy! :hail:

Lady Onogaro
November 29th, 2018, 10:55 AM
Wow! Farmboy! (as Chrissy said).

I have one Parker Coronet, a bronze one with an unsightly ding. I bought it with the ding as it was affordable and I wanted one. I don't know if it can be fixed or who could fix it.

proteus
November 30th, 2018, 11:15 AM
As always, my thanks to FB.

This time for sharing his collection of Coronets with us.

alexwi
December 2nd, 2018, 09:15 PM
I have a black one, which I think is a Coronet, as well as a Shields Harlequin, albeit not with the black shields.

alex

proteus
December 3rd, 2018, 11:06 AM
I have a black one, which I think is a Coronet, as well as a Shields Harlequin, albeit not with the black shields.

alex

Hello alexwi

Please can you post a photograph of your Coronet.

Being black I sure it is.

Include your Harlequin if you wish

alexwi
December 3rd, 2018, 11:35 AM
I have a black one, which I think is a Coronet, as well as a Shields Harlequin, albeit not with the black shields.

alex

Hello alexwi

Please can you post a photograph of your Coronet.

Being black I sure it is.

Include your Harlequin if you wish

Hi Proteus,

The Harlequin is your run of the mill pen with the shields just etched but not painted black (haven't been able to find one at a price I'm willing to pay - of course, what I'm willing to pay is a highly variable number, depending on the season, weather, wife's mood, etc.).

These aren't my best pictures, but the important details are there. I just noticed that the nib is steel, which I think isn't the right nib (given that the pen is black and gold, I would expect the nib to match the ornaments).

Alex

PS: I had forgotten what a pain in the tassie it is to attach images here.

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proteus
December 3rd, 2018, 02:17 PM
Hello Alex,

Your pen is most definitely a fine example of a Parker 45 Coronet.

I would never be concerned that the nib is stainless steel, it is what it is.

The main thing is that you enjoy it.

Thank You for posting your photography of it.

I really enjoy looking at others pens.

proteus
December 4th, 2018, 12:36 PM
A rare example of boxed NOS Coronet from Janesville.

( The photography is not mine )

I would be very interested to hear from anyone who knows what they called the model / pattern.

The pattern is similar to one used at Meru, France in the late 1960's ( Double or Lamine )

Chrissy
December 4th, 2018, 12:51 PM
I thought they were called Insignia's. Mine are like that.

proteus
December 4th, 2018, 02:03 PM
Please indulge me for a moment

Can you tell me the colour of the tail of your barrel
And what is printed on the cap band
Any photography would be great.

Nb - I have read your - Ink Review: Diamine Classic Green ink
( inkyfountainpens )
It was very impressive to read.

Me, I am just a pen collector.

Chrissy
December 4th, 2018, 03:37 PM
Please indulge me for a moment

Can you tell me the colour of the tail of your barrel - The tails on the ends of the barrels are black.
And what is printed on the cap band - 1/10 12K G.F. Made in the USA
Any photography would be great.

They aren't Coronets because they aren't made from aluminium and don't have the large rectangular Parker logo that is unique to aluminium Coronets.

Nb - I have read your - Ink Review: Diamine Classic Green ink
( inkyfountainpens )
It was very impressive to read.

You're welcome and thank you. :)

proteus
December 5th, 2018, 01:26 PM
Chrissy,

A great many thanks for your reply.

I like your definition of a Coronet.

Was hoping your pen was Newhaven made.

For me this post is a discovery of pens I know so very little about.

Wish now to hunt down the mythical Newhaven Rolled Silver version.