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Chris499
March 19th, 2019, 12:38 PM
Dear, Fans, Collectors and Experts on Montblanc Fountain Pens,

I'd like to get started using a Fountain Pen more frequently and would therefore like to buy a second hand Meisterstueck.

I found one on the market that I'm interestered but would like some advice from more experianced users if it is the real thing.

Montblanc Meisterstück Classique Platinum
- private sale
- 3 years old
- no certificate available any more
- features the pix(R) on the underside of the clip but the picture is not very clear - should this be engraved or stamped?
- serial nr. & Germany engraved on the clip
- the nib looks authentic to me (would check if it is magnetic)
- The body has a dark red color/reflectin in some picture

Questions:
- The converter has no "use montblanc ink only" stamp
- The "pix(R)" logo on the back of the clip seems to be stamped and not engraved
- The extension behind the tread looks unfamiliar to me

I'm aware that one can not authenticate a pen based on pictures, still if you have any advice what to look for I'd be very greatfull

Thanks Chris!

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mulrich
March 19th, 2019, 12:56 PM
I'm not a MB expert but I learn something anytime someone asks if a pen is authentic.

From my limited knowledge, this one looks good, and a magnetic test should confirm (hopefully counterfeiters never switch to non-magnetic metals). Googling the serial number can also sometimes identify a fake pen (commonly forged numbers will sometimes appear in google search results) but nothing showed up for this one.

I look forward to hearing from the actual experts.

Chrissy
March 19th, 2019, 01:12 PM
I see no problems here. This looks like an authentic Meisterstück 145 pen to me. :thumb: Pix is stamped, not engraved.

I've never seen an authentic Montblanc converter that says use only Montblanc ink. That smooth twist top certainly suggests an authentic Montblanc converter.

I've seen that extension behind the threads many times on authentic Montblancs.

Paul-H
March 19th, 2019, 01:32 PM
Does the converter screw in or is it a push fit

Is the nib magnetic gold isn't

Is there a small notch at the bottom of the collector.

I have compared one of these to a counterfeit that was such a close copy all the parts were interchangeable.

Even the body had it's red glow when a light was shon through it.

The fake was slightly lighter and the three things listed above were the only obvious differences

Paul

Chris499
March 19th, 2019, 01:46 PM
Does the converter screw in or is it a push fit

Is the nib magnetic gold isn't

Is there a small notch at the bottom of the collector.



Thanks very much Paul, thats sounds like some great advice

I'll certainly check the nib if it is magnetic or not.

As far as I'm aware the converter is ment to screw in - correct?

For the collector I'm not sure what to look for - is there ment to be a notch at the bottom? Would you have a picture to show me what to look for?

Thanks to all so far! :)

Chrissy
March 19th, 2019, 03:05 PM
Does the converter screw in or is it a push fit

Is the nib magnetic gold isn't

Is there a small notch at the bottom of the collector.



Thanks very much Paul, thats sounds like some great advice

I'll certainly check the nib if it is magnetic or not.

As far as I'm aware the converter is ment to screw in - correct?

For the collector I'm not sure what to look for - is there ment to be a notch at the bottom? Would you have a picture to show me what to look for?

Thanks to all so far! :)
What he means is that there should be a small notch at the base of the feed next to where it goes into the section. A Montblanc feed will have that notch. It helps their technicians to remove and reinstall the nib and feed unit.
Yes the converter should screw in.
I suggest you type that serial number into the Google search box and see if any come up. It shouldn't if it's only been used on one pen.

Forget about the red glow. They can easily make fakes that have it.

Paul-H
March 19th, 2019, 03:33 PM
The nib looks real, on a genuine nib it's stamped, the fakes are laser etched, also with the fakes they do the plating on a completed nib so the tip is plated, on the real nibs, the tip is added after plating so is a different colour as in the above example.

Yes I meant feed no collector in my above statement.

Paul

Chris499
March 19th, 2019, 03:34 PM
Thanks very much Chrissy,

I'm new to the Fountain pen vocabulary :blink: but that clarifies it. (I found pictures on google as well)


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This is not the pen I'm interested in but I'll for sure pay attention to this detail.

I did google the number - nothing to be found.

Thanks for your help! :)

Chrissy
March 19th, 2019, 03:50 PM
That's the notch there, as I thought it would be from that nib. It's not a laser etched nib, nor a simple plated one when there is no plating or rounding on the tine tips. That nib shows how Montblanc always finish off their nib tines. :)

(Now you know the serial number is kosher, it would be great if you can you obscure your picture of it a little. You never know who is searching for serial numbers.)