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dneal
April 3rd, 2020, 02:16 PM
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fountainpenkid
May 1st, 2020, 04:45 PM
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dneal
May 1st, 2020, 08:05 PM
Black faceted pens with the Greek key on the cap go back to the lever filler era. The imprint admittedly throws me off. However, the pen doesn’t have the Greek key on the section, and the section and body are one part (later they’re two threaded pieces). The piston knob is still pinned, and there is a cork piston. That clip shows up around the 50’s. The feed is the older 2 channel.

If you’ve got any information (I have some old catalogs), it would be appreciated. Everything I can find indicates it’s late 50’s era.

dneal
May 1st, 2020, 08:34 PM
Here are a few I have. An old ringtop lever filler that should be from about the 30's, a later 40's piston filler, the one in question, and a later production (late 80's early 90's-ish).

Notice the caps below the bands. The older ones have a radius and the most recent is stepped. Same for the barrel. The newer one doesn't taper. It's stepped. Lastly, compare the shape of the sections.

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fountainpenkid
May 2nd, 2020, 03:17 PM
Nice quartet! I have the exact same 1940's vest pocket model...wonderful little pen!

See here: https://www.tenpen.it/article/milord-paragon
It's interesting...if not for the radiused transition of the barrel, I would be convinced it was a later '60s or '70s model (the celluloid apparently continued with these pre-Paragon pens, as did the pin-locked piston mechanism). But the radius is interesting. Maybe by the very late '50s they had already gone back to greek key trim--the did eliminate it at the beginning of the decade in favor of the more modern single rings (see Fig. 2 of article). Hopefully an experienced collector finds this and offers some clarity.

fountainpenkid
May 2nd, 2020, 03:18 PM
One thing that pushes me towards the barrel and cap of your Dama being post-1950's is the piston trim ring--the rings were thinner on the '50s pens.

dneal
May 2nd, 2020, 07:50 PM
I'd like to know for sure what it is. I've seen the link you posted, and initially thought the pen was a 60's based off the barrel markings, greek key, etc... The cork piston is what screws with my head. Most European makers switch from cork in the 50's. Omas might be an exception. There just isn't a lot of information, and as the link notes:

" I finally reached the definitive conclusion that there is an information gap in the history of Omas pens, and that gap needs to be filled."

and

"Emilio Dolcini’s book, so far the most complete work on Omas pens, simply does not mention the facetted models".

I think this pen falls in the gap of missing knowledge. I think the author did a good job trying to fill it, but his work isn't comprehensive.

--edit--

One thing I forgot to mention (and can't get a clear picture of) is about the imprint. It's the double line which supposedly indicates celluloid.

dneal
December 27th, 2022, 08:56 PM
So Gulfcoast's clogged Omas thread (once he attached the picture of that really nice old pen) got me to wondering about this pen again.

It so happens that Letizia posted an update on the celluloid/resin question this October (https://www.tenpen.it/index.php/article/repetita-iuvant-how-distinguish-between-milordgentlemen-resin-or-celluoid). Apparently she gets that question a lot.

I'll revise my estimate on this pen to the mid to late 60's (or even 70's, as suggested). The double channel feed makes sense with the super flexible extra lucens nib, and the markings would indicate 60's; but the cork piston throws me. If they rejected the idea of injection molding (and advertised the hand-finished celluloid), perhaps the same thinking applied with piston material.

At any rate, it's definitely celluloid and not resin.

and @724Seney - yes, the extra lucens nibs are some of the best ever made.

WaltZucher
January 5th, 2023, 02:38 AM
Black faceted pens with the Greek key on the cap go back to the lever filler era. The imprint admittedly throws me off. However, the pen doesn’t have the Greek key on the section, and the section and body are one part (later they’re two threaded pieces). The piston knob is still pinned, and there is a cork piston. That clip shows up around the 50’s. The feed is the older 2 channel.

If you’ve got any information (I have some old catalogs), it would be appreciated. Everything I can find indicates it’s late 50’s era.

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Black faceted pens with the Greek key on the cap go back to the lever filler era. The imprint admittedly throws me off. However, the pen doesn’t have the Greek key on the section, and the section and body are one part (later they’re two threaded pieces). The piston knob is still pinned, and there is a cork piston. That clip shows up around the 50’s. The feed is the older 2 channel.
It sounds like you have a vintage pen that was made sometime in the mid 20th century. The fact that the section and body are one part, the piston knob is pinned, and it has a cork piston suggest that it is an older model. The black faceted design and Greek key on the cap give it a classic and elegant appearance. The clip, which appears to be from the 1950s, adds a modern touch. Overall, it seems like a well-crafted and unique writing instrument.

Ismaeldallastx
July 29th, 2023, 07:04 AM
Lovely writers :o

HarryPotter69
August 28th, 2023, 06:09 PM
OMAS was known for crafting exquisite and high-quality writing instruments. The Dama model might refer to a specific collection or design of OMAS pens from the 1950s, given your mention of "50's Omas Dama."