Scam Watch July: Renpei's Relapse

[Flounder]

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You’ll recall Renpei Chen’s scamming activities (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=31138&viewfull=1#post31138) over the last couple of months.

To express his contrition, Renpei wrote "I will try my best to use actions to prove that I really am sorry (I am thinking about this) (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=31161&viewfull=1#post31161)". Never a truer word spoken, I think. He wrote those words on May 24th. Here's an outline of those actions, as his chosen measure of sincerity.

When Renpei's May 27th FPG ad (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2736-WTT-WTS-Wahl-Eversharp-Skyline-Demonstrator) for a modern Eversharp Skyline was met with wary silence, he sold it on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wahl-Eversharp-Skyline-Demonstrator-/330945003790) on June 30th (it would have been an honest gesture to disclose that the pen was no longer available, for those that do not keep a list of Renpei's many usernames and aliases). I can't comment on that transaction other than to say no feedback has been left for it. Nor can I comment on Renpei's feedback as an eBay seller as he has none.

Looking at his "feedback left for others (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=renpei96&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers)", I can say that after attempting to buy a $160 ipod 4 on June 6th, he left a negative feedback for an eBay seller with an otherwise perfect record. Here's Renpei's complaint, and the seller's response:
Renpei96, on Jun-23-13 08:16 - "Seller claimed the payment did not go through and never shipped"
Seller, on Jun-23-13 10:53- "PayPal. Investigation found payment was fraudulent. Payment was reversed.!!!!!!!"

I contacted the seller to ask what was going on. Renpei had attempted purchase under the name Rebecca Haslett, using the email address xobecky92@gmail.com.

Over at Watchuseek, you'll find those contact details make for grim reading. On the 5th July, after "being scammed and losing a little cash", Medicbanks warns against dealing with Rebecca Haslett, xobecky92@gmail.com, or JHaslett (Renpei Chen's username on Watchuseek, now banned) (http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/two-citizens-one-luminox-fsot-884949.html). He'd like to sell or trade two watches, but with the proviso "it saddens me to say no international offers (including Canada, sorry guys just a bad taste in my mouth and a precaution).

Medicbanks elaborates on scam on the 12th of July. "Also known as Rebecca Haslett, xobecky@gmail and a PayPal address of junexoasher@gmail
I foolishly sent cash as part of a trade, he/she never sent the watch. Luckily I still have the other watches I was trading as part of the deal, but none the less. Avoid at all cost!!! (http://forums.watchuseek.com/f63/scammed-jhaslett-885371.html)"

I'm a member of WUS, though hardly prolific. I PMd Medicbanks to ask what had gone wrong. Before reading his reply, let's reread Dan's account of Kirkylarky's MO here at FPGeeks (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28243&viewfull=1#post28243).


""The name on watchuseek was JHaslett which has now been banned. I had listed two watches for sale. Becky as she called herself contacted me reference a trade plus cash deal for a quartz Seamaster which had some minor cosmetic damage. I we agreed that I would send a portion if the cash, she would then send the watch and upon my receipt I would send my two. I actually sent a little extra to help cover the shipping because I had been lead to believe she was having financial troubles which is why she was getting rid of the watch (she actually had three, the Omega a Tag and a Sinn). So anyway, she said she sent the package, but sent it via CanadaPost insured with no tracking after she said she would send it FedEx. When I asked her to send me a copy of the receipt she kept making excuses then became offended that I was accusing her if being a scammer. I checked the address she sent me and it was a business address. So I allowed the benefit if the doubt (like a dumbass) because I do like to at least pretend that most humans are decent. After allowing time for standard shipping out of Canada and customs times I contacted PayPal and opened a case, they found in my favor and have me my money back. "

If Renpei is not Kirkylarky, he's his identical twin. I wonder if he's gotten around to changing the postal address he gives to the victim? Perhaps Dan can trade details with MedicBanks backchannel.

I'm writing this because Renpei is still chancing his luck with fountain pen trades & sales here and regularly on google+ (where he is also developing worrying 'difficulties' with paypal (https://plus.google.com/114876021613681833804/posts/Z9SQ1hNFy8i) and delivery addresses (https://plus.google.com/113750484727487805601/posts/9PsxZqP58ix)), to say nothing of his June 27th 'cash for amazon vouchers (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3134-Pen-Sale-20-15-Off)' wheeze.

To quote xobecky92 (http://extralunchmoney.com/user/xobecky92), Renpei is looking to make some extra money. Don't let it be yours.

[fountainpenkid]

I wish they would just ban the fool from this forum. That kind of behavior, especially with that kind of evidence calls for nothing less than the loss of such a privilege as this one.

[MisterBoll]

This is interesting as I got a PM on FPN about a want ad that I had listed in the classifieds. A member with one post (xobecky92) replied to my ad (late May early June). Since what she wrote did not smell right I contacted two admins on FPN to alert them but nothing was done - at least not that I am aware. There have been no further postings by that name.

[MedicBanks]

Hello everyone, and thank you Flounder for contacting me a letting me know about the fpgeeks site. I have a been a member of FPN for a bit as I am a watch fan and of course a fan of fountain pens as well. Incidentally I would also like to point out that JHaslett is a member there as well or at least was at one time. I must admit that my unpleasant experience was a valuable learning experience, but I would suggest saving yourself the hassle and just heed the things listed here. I also sincerely hope that whomever this person is reads this and learns something, although I am quite sure that given the history presented here that will not be the case.

[I like mango pudding]

I too am on several watch forums and I'll keep an eye out for this joker. And help spread the word out on this scammer as well.

[Annie]

I was told the scammer was being banned but still hasn't been. I don't suppose it matters because he will re-invent himself and be back because there are rich pickings here. Renpei Chen is a liar and a thief. Anyone who wants to come over all 'you can't say that' well too bad, I just did and I will go on saying it unless or until I get my money back from him or his mummy or who ever is in the chair for coughing up for his criminal activities.

[Annie]

Hello everyone, and thank you Flounder for contacting me a letting me know about the fpgeeks site. I have a been a member of FPN for a bit as I am a watch fan and of course a fan of fountain pens as well. Incidentally I would also like to point out that JHaslett is a member there as well or at least was at one time. I must admit that my unpleasant experience was a valuable learning experience, but I would suggest saving yourself the hassle and just heed the things listed here. I also sincerely hope that whomever this person is reads this and learns something, although I am quite sure that given the history presented here that will not be the case.

Sorry to hear you got scammed too. If you want to exchange details on this clown, do send me a PM. Canadian police need as much information as they can to close down Renpei Chen's criminal activities.

[Jon Szanto]

Two thoughts spring to mind:


Caveat emptor
I wish I had the spare time that Flounder has.



Best of luck to all involved. Treat the subject of the OP like Cesium-137.

[Laura N]

I wish they would just ban the fool from this forum. That kind of behavior, especially with that kind of evidence calls for nothing less than the loss of such a privilege as this one.

+1

I think it makes the forum look bad that he is still allowed to post here.

[Flounder]

Two thoughts spring to mind:


Caveat emptor
I wish I had the spare time that Flounder has.



Best of luck to all involved. Treat the subject of the OP like Cesium-137.

I now realise that Jon's previous 'free time (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=30603&viewfull=1#post30603)' aside in the last scam thread must have been directed at me rather than Renpei, as I had assumed given the context. That thread was locked by a tremendous volume of off-topic posts, but not before Jon gave me cause to puzzle over the antipathy (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=31045&viewfull=1#post31045) he's shown since I joined FPG.

Way back in March, I expressed repellence at what I call bullying behaviour (www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/242051-540-terrible-build-quality/) over at FPN. People ignorant of the facts were nonetheless mocking a guy who posted his frustrations regarding multiple TWSBI part failures. Instead of expending free time by joining the slanging match, I chose to present identical cases of those part failures, highlighting the endemic design shortcomings that led to them. I guess Jon is still riled, and I suppose it didn't help when I took issue (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3360-Bad-experience-with-nibs-com?p=39601&viewfull=1#post39601) with his recent attempt at humiliating tarheel1 (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3360-Bad-experience-with-nibs-com?p=39591&viewfull=1#post39591) here at FPG. Jon, forget it, as I did. Let's clear the air.

It would have taken less free time for me to sum up my personal opinion regarding Renpei; "caveat emptor" as above. Back in March, I believed presenting the evidence would better serve the community than presenting my opinion and that belief hasn't changed. I invite Jon to consider the same approach.

I won't dwell on Jon's odd fixation with calling attention to how very busy (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=30865&viewfull=1#post30865) he is, how other people should realise that (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=30834&viewfull=1#post30834), or that he'll stretch himself to post again in the thread he's 'done with' - so long as its re-emphasised (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=30892&viewfull=1#post30892) that he's so very very busy, twice (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=31088&viewfull=1#post31088). Nor the free time he uses speculating how much others have (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2604-Scams-and-Fountain-Pens?p=30603&viewfull=1#post30603), or how envious he is of them (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3486-Scam-Watch-July-Renpei-s-Relapse?p=40531&viewfull=1#post40531), because it's all mildly comical in an anosognosic kind of way, and harmless. Jon is a Big Deal with Lots Going On; "Je suis incognito ici, faites le savoir!"

If this time and motion stuff is considered an on-topic issue, I'll address it. I can't say it took much time to message an eBay member, google the contact details he gave me, and PM the scammee google threw up. Add that to copy-pasting links to a few (hardly verbose) paragraphs of my own, and I was done before my tea had cooled. The only impedence was googleplus' asinine infinite scroll feature, which necessitated holding down the pagedown key before ctrl - fing "Renpei" or "Paypal", but that was hardly a bind.

I don't know where the impression that could have been a lengthy process came from; with a physical keyboard and a tabbed browser, you're laughing. Perhaps Jon is more of a tablet user. I haven't the patience to write more than a paragraph using those. Inserting hyperlinks is hell. Smartphones are even worse, IMO.

I'd ask the usual suspects to refrain from posting inevitably thread-locking opinion pieces here, as it is possible more useful information will come forward (as has already, reading the replies since the original post). Why not start a new thread? You can always quote from this one.

[Jon Szanto]

Flounder, you assume so, so much, take many words to express it, and get most of it wrong. My second degree is in software engineering, I'm no stranger to the tools.

It is social commentary, and not, as you seem wont to paint, "bullying". It may very well be only my own perspective, but if you wish me to shut up, isn't that just as egregious a behavior as what you try to ascribe to me? Please.

[gweddig]

Back on topic please gents...
I have been cross-posting some of the warnings here on FPG to the G+ Fountain Pen Community where the person in question has been posting trade and sales offers. Before you follow the link please note that the first part of the conversation started in mid July and there were a few "watch out" posts before that. Link (https://plus.google.com/114876021613681833804/posts/RAUiBPJEgaq).

[southpaw52]

It a shame that he feels necessary to scam people and keeps resurfacing under other assumed names.

[dannzeman]

I wish they would just ban the fool from this forum. That kind of behavior, especially with that kind of evidence calls for nothing less than the loss of such a privilege as this one.

+1

I think it makes the forum look bad that he is still allowed to post here.
The reason he wasn't banned earlier was because it was easier to keep tabs on him and his activity if I knew what username he was using. Once he's banned, that just invites him to create a new username that will take longer for me (us) to track down. And since he uses multiple proxies I can't just track his IPs and block those.

But since everyone wishes him banned (and I've now seen enough information to warrant the action), consider it done.

[Annie]

I wish they would just ban the fool from this forum. That kind of behavior, especially with that kind of evidence calls for nothing less than the loss of such a privilege as this one.

+1

I think it makes the forum look bad that he is still allowed to post here.
The reason he wasn't banned earlier was because it was easier to keep tabs on him and his activity if I knew what username he was using. Once he's banned, that just invites him to create a new username that will take longer for me (us) to track down. And since he uses multiple proxies I can't just track his IPs and block those.

But since everyone wishes him banned (and I've now seen enough information to warrant the action), consider it done.

I get the idea that it was easier to keep tabs when he is a member but there was nothing to stop him having several IDs all running concurrently. He may already have a couple of spare IDs he's using so the loss of one isn't going to stop him much. However, allowing a known thief to continue here sends the wrong message, that somehow theft is condoned. I know it isn't Dan but the casual observer might think so. I'm really grateful that Flounder posted the additional information. The thief will be back of course, probably already is but continuing to flag this keeps us all on our toes and we have more chance of not giving giving our cash or our stuff to a criminal lowlife like Renpei Chen.

[Flounder]

While we're on the subject of IDs, I've confirmed with MedicBanks via the WUS PM system that he's our MedicBanks here on FPG.

Though it was unlikely that Renpei had time to register here, poaching the username for legitimacy, I would not have put it past Renpei to read my post, sign up to FPG using that username, and attempt a quick scam under the guise of a wronged party. Our MedicBanks is the genuine article.

[Flounder]

Moralising Waffle:
Renpei has shown that setbacks don't weaken his determination to pursue the criminal path, so proactivity is better than passivity. He's not going to stop for me, he's certainly not going to stop for you. He may yet be persuaded to stop for himself. In the meantime, let's do what we can to hinder his criminality.

Safeguarding Members From Renpei Suggestion:
In re: banning his "renpei" username, I do think it's safer for the rest of us that Renpei is denied the right to build a legitimate presence here that he can revert to as and when he wants advice etc. Look how he chose to make use of it. Purely my analysis from the evidence available: he doesn't understand deference. He sees it as weakness, and we can ill afford to show him weakness.

It makes it harder for Renpei to scam us out of pens and money when he's forced to reset his usernames. Misterboll has shown how people rightly exercise more caution when trades are proposed by new members, even without knowing there's an active scammer in the community, (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3486-Scam-Watch-July-Renpei-s-Relapse?p=40480&viewfull=1#post40480) or his back story.

I think it would be helpful to have a sticky in each of the classifieds subforums, containing the PMs he has sent people as Kirk Larsen, KirkyLarky, Becky, JHaslett, xobecky92 and so on. It would serve as a useful reference of things like patterns of speech, sentence structure, spelling & grammar errors, turns of phrase, methods of persuasion, bait used and scam mechanics.

This would give traders something to check against, if some PM from LonelySamanthaBigBosoms69 or PenBabeXoX raises their suspicions (if it takes redacting Renpei's phone numbers & mailing addresses to make this acceptable, fine). The more made available to read, the more we can recognise. Usernames are very easy to replace, but patterns of speech & behaviour are not. By outing his methods, he will have to work to change them. It is hard work to convincingly change all of the above. Renpei has already indicated a degree of artlessness in this area, recalling his stilted sockpuppet 'conversation (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28398&viewfull=1#post28398)' with Kirkylarky after Annie called his bluff. He had similar difficulties adopting an 'innocent victim' persona; having little concept of how moral people think or talk, he heavily overegged (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28284&viewfull=1#post28284) the plaster-saint shtick (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28447&viewfull=1#post28447).

If scamming us (let's not mince words; defrauding us) is made more difficult, Renpei may revert to less troublesome and accountable enterprises, like pretending to be a girl while blokes wank themselves off, or his video game scams, or whatever.


To Renpei
Amongst the lies and subterfuge you employed to set yourself up as victim rather than criminal, I feel there was one genuine insight into whatever the hell led you to start defrauding strangers at 16. You write "Most of the victims are international. I've looked around and unless you've done some terrible shit (something to do with 4 letter acronyms? RICO, NATO, or that stuff) no one is going to bother tracking you down. Especially international mail/email fraud."

You need to be disabused of this fallacy. You are escalating the shit you get into, and every scam has brought you worsening consequences. Consider the situation you've put yourself in since the last time you were caught, even from a purely transactional standpoint. Weigh the risks against the returns.

What did your last two scams net you? No cash, and you've caused even more damage to your reputation. Every scam that's discovered brings some pretty alarming things further up your name's results list on google.

Your fraudulent activities are demonstrably inept. In the last couple of months alone, you've left enough of a trail to be exposed in pretty short order. I'm not saying this to brag, or to slag you off. I'm trying to impress upon you that you are not very good at this, and that far better criminals than you have been caught. I really hope you took in some of the well meaning replies while engineering a consensus that you shouldn't 'confront' Kirkylarky - in between laughing up your sleeve. With a criminal record to your name, the best school grades aren't worth a damn to any recruiter. Renpei - you are thieving yourself into life without a career. For the sake of a few hundred dollars and some mid-range pens.

To any prospective employer googling your name (and they certainly do) you've made yourself an alarming reputation. Fraud? They don't want to know, and the HR department won't give a shit if you've evaded arrest or not. There will be 100 other candidates with nothing to worry about, so why bother with you?

Put things right *now*, while you're young enough to get away with "I made some bad choices as a child, and realised what I was doing was wrong. I took responsibility for my actions and returned everything I had taken, as you can see. I have matured since then and have no criminal record". Give prospective employers something concrete and positive to consider.

That scenario can only happen when you start making amends and give people a chance to say so. Don't think for a minute your word will be taken. For the love of god, don't come out with the same crap you've posted on googleplus in an interview. If you don't take responsibility for your actions until you've suffered even more serious consequences - arrest - you may as well drop out of school now. Earn yourself a criminal record, and you've thrown away your chance in life.

You passed up the opportunity to make a clean breast of things last time, instead choosing to push your luck again. I hope you can understand that the outcome of that choice was very much to your disadvantage.

[The Good Captain]

One thing that this character seems to excel in, is getting a lot of people to spend time posting a lot of comments. So success there as well.
In a sad way, I wish that he'd upset or scam someone who was really 'nasty' and then I suspect we'd not hear about him again.
For those that read this and have the clout - just do it!

[Nonsensical]

One thing that this character seems to excel in, is getting a lot of people to spend time posting a lot of comments. So success there as well.
In a sad way, I wish that he'd upset or scam someone who was really 'nasty' and then I suspect we'd not hear about him again.
For those that read this and have the clout - just do it!

Fortunately (or perhaps unfortunately?) in this case, it may be quite difficult find anyone that 'nasty' in the FP community. Perhaps that's why he chose to target us in the first place. I also strongly believe that this will all come back to bite him in the rear end later in life. It is unfortunate that some people here have lost money and pens, but I'm sure this saga has given us all some food for thought.

[MisterBoll]

Wouldn't it make sense to publish the joker's info? Address, phone, etc?

[I like mango pudding]

I sure would like to know. He's been outed over in fpn using a different username and says he's from Vancouver. I hope he hasn't been lurking in our local pen club, because if he's been, well, he's got another thing coming.

[Flounder]

I doubt it, but you can check his photos on Google+ and Flickr for confirmation. I've made a backup of his youtube clip voiceover, in case he's tempted to offer phone numbers again as a reassurance to future victims. He's taken down his Facebook page.

[renpeichenv2]

Moralising Waffle:
Renpei has shown that setbacks don't weaken his determination to pursue the criminal path, so proactivity is better than passivity. He's not going to stop for me, he's certainly not going to stop for you. He may yet be persuaded to stop for himself. In the meantime, let's do what we can to hinder his criminality.

Safeguarding Members From Renpei Suggestion:
In re: banning his "renpei" username, I do think it's safer for the rest of us that Renpei is denied the right to build a legitimate presence here that he can revert to as and when he wants advice etc. Look how he chose to make use of it. Purely my analysis from the evidence available: he doesn't understand deference. He sees it as weakness, and we can ill afford to show him weakness.

It makes it harder for Renpei to scam us out of pens and money when he's forced to reset his usernames. Misterboll has shown how people rightly exercise more caution when trades are proposed by new members, even without knowing there's an active scammer in the community, (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/3486-Scam-Watch-July-Renpei-s-Relapse?p=40480&viewfull=1#post40480) or his back story.

I think it would be helpful to have a sticky in each of the classifieds subforums, containing the PMs he has sent people as Kirk Larsen, KirkyLarky, Becky, JHaslett, xobecky92 and so on. It would serve as a useful reference of things like patterns of speech, sentence structure, spelling & grammar errors, turns of phrase, methods of persuasion, bait used and scam mechanics.

This would give traders something to check against, if some PM from LonelySamanthaBigBosoms69 or PenBabeXoX raises their suspicions (if it takes redacting Renpei's phone numbers & mailing addresses to make this acceptable, fine). The more made available to read, the more we can recognise. Usernames are very easy to replace, but patterns of speech & behaviour are not. By outing his methods, he will have to work to change them. It is hard work to convincingly change all of the above. Renpei has already indicated a degree of artlessness in this area, recalling his stilted sockpuppet 'conversation (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28398&viewfull=1#post28398)' with Kirkylarky after Annie called his bluff. He had similar difficulties adopting an 'innocent victim' persona; having little concept of how moral people think or talk, he heavily overegged (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28284&viewfull=1#post28284) the plaster-saint shtick (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2502-Help-Bring-Down-This-Scammer-Kirkylarky?p=28447&viewfull=1#post28447).

If scamming us (let's not mince words; defrauding us) is made more difficult, Renpei may revert to less troublesome and accountable enterprises, like pretending to be a girl while blokes wank themselves off, or his video game scams, or whatever.


To Renpei
Amongst the lies and subterfuge you employed to set yourself up as victim rather than criminal, I feel there was one genuine insight into whatever the hell led you to start defrauding strangers at 16. You write "Most of the victims are international. I've looked around and unless you've done some terrible shit (something to do with 4 letter acronyms? RICO, NATO, or that stuff) no one is going to bother tracking you down. Especially international mail/email fraud."

You need to be disabused of this fallacy. You are escalating the shit you get into, and every scam has brought you worsening consequences. Consider the situation you've put yourself in since the last time you were caught, even from a purely transactional standpoint. Weigh the risks against the returns.

What did your last two scams net you? No cash, and you've caused even more damage to your reputation. Every scam that's discovered brings some pretty alarming things further up your name's results list on google.

Your fraudulent activities are demonstrably inept. In the last couple of months alone, you've left enough of a trail to be exposed in pretty short order. I'm not saying this to brag, or to slag you off. I'm trying to impress upon you that you are not very good at this, and that far better criminals than you have been caught. I really hope you took in some of the well meaning replies while engineering a consensus that you shouldn't 'confront' Kirkylarky - in between laughing up your sleeve. With a criminal record to your name, the best school grades aren't worth a damn to any recruiter. Renpei - you are thieving yourself into life without a career. For the sake of a few hundred dollars and some mid-range pens.

To any prospective employer googling your name (and they certainly do) you've made yourself an alarming reputation. Fraud? They don't want to know, and the HR department won't give a shit if you've evaded arrest or not. There will be 100 other candidates with nothing to worry about, so why bother with you?

Put things right *now*, while you're young enough to get away with "I made some bad choices as a child, and realised what I was doing was wrong. I took responsibility for my actions and returned everything I had taken, as you can see. I have matured since then and have no criminal record". Give prospective employers something concrete and positive to consider.

That scenario can only happen when you start making amends and give people a chance to say so. Don't think for a minute your word will be taken. For the love of god, don't come out with the same crap you've posted on googleplus in an interview. If you don't take responsibility for your actions until you've suffered even more serious consequences - arrest - you may as well drop out of school now. Earn yourself a criminal record, and you've thrown away your chance in life.

You passed up the opportunity to make a clean breast of things last time, instead choosing to push your luck again. I hope you can understand that the outcome of that choice was very much to your disadvantage.

I had promised that despite the fact that I am innocent, I will not return because it is the best course of action after a lengthy conversation on a facebook pen group but now I am really mad.
After my confession last time that I am not kirkylarky but I did try to pull one over on a few people on this forum before I realized I wasnt able to do it and told the people that I was planning to scam them, i had never returned.

Whihc makes me ask. What the fuck do you mean by:
That scenario can only happen when you start making amends and give people a chance to say so. Don't think for a minute your word will be taken. For the love of god, don't come out with the same crap you've posted on googleplus in an interview. If you don't take responsibility for your actions until you've suffered even more serious consequences - arrest - you may as well drop out of school now. Earn yourself a criminal record, and you've thrown away your chance in life.

You passed up the opportunity to make a clean breast of things last time, instead choosing to push your luck again. I hope you can understand that the outcome of that choice was very much to your disadvantage.

I apologized to all and told them I would like to just forget this. I know the victims on this site would love to get back what they lost and since I just want to stop being falsely accused, I am willing to send pens of similar value to those who lost something.
It will be coming from my pocket but I think it would be win-win. I would no longer have to deal with false accusations and the victims will get back what they lost. Hell, Im even fine if they keep thinking im guilty but I just dont want to be falsely accused anymore.

So when have I thrown away my chance at lifeÉ And how am I choosing to push my luck again. I stopped being active in pen groups and I have moved on to doing other things like studying for the SAT and starting a youtube channel. And I just want to say, I had never engaged in a single criminal activity in my life. Whether its the videogame scamming whihc I never did (Im not sure if you read the posts correctly but I was the one who got keylogged and lost my account) or the scamming on this site (I almost did it but I couldnt. was it right? no. Was my apology enough? probably not but I did not take anything from anyone.)

And I find it funny that you would refer to the google plus converstaions. I love how I ask you if you wouldnt mind posting what I wrote here and not only do you confirm that you read it, you did not post it. That doesnt seem fair at all does it?

Anyways, Im really sorry once again but I do not know what you mean by pushing my luck. Sure, I did post about the amazon gift card thing but unless you are illiterate or a selective reader, I also wrote that since there has been some false accusations of me scamming, I am willing to ship the items to you first before accepting payment. I am *totally scamming*.

[renpeichenv2]

Hey Dan. I want to apologize for coming back despite the fact that I promised not to return. I know I dont be welcome back despite my innocence.
I saw this post a while ago but I really cant stand the falseness and onesidedness of what flounder is saying.
I know he probably was scammed by kirkylarky and he wants revenge so he takes it out on the most likely person but I would appreciate it if he gave the whole story (rather than omitting the posts I have asked him to forward numerous times but then refering to it later on) and also not giving the whole story (amazon voucher scam even though I said I will be going first and only accepting payment AFTER you receive it which means even if amazon screws up, I would have to deal with it)

I know there is no way to prove my innocence and there is a dam good amount of proof that I am a scammer that if I didnt know I was innocent, I would totally beleive so I will not be arguing. YOu can call my proposal a bribe if you want, or the actions of a desperate person, but personally, I am doing this mainly because I do not want to be falsely accused and I think it would give the victims some closure. The fountain pen community is a great group and I am actually sad that this would happen which I why Im willing to give all the victims (annie, woosang, tracy, flounder, i think thats all... im not sure) something from my collections. Its a win win situation because i will no longer have to deal with these false accusations as well.

Also, I know this isnt the perfect proof but i made this pastebin post a while ago while i allegedly "scammed someone" even though I was the one who got keylogged and lsot my account.
http://pastebin.com/BxijRJP6
I know it may be a weak proof but i just want to share it.

[Annie]

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[renpeichenv2]

First off. I never took $130 from you.
Secondly. None of my pens (except for a prera, a metropolitan, 2 safaris, and a regatta) belong to anyone other than me.
Thirdly, I dont have a credit card or a paypal account and I cannot send money. My paypal account was limited because I gave fake information (my age) and I cannot get on it.
Fourthly, even if I did have the money, I dont know where to send it and its pretty dam hard to send money if you dont know where it goes.

Im trying to be a good person here and apologize for initiating but then backing out of a scam that I almost pulled and I want to make up for it by doing this. What you're suggesting cannot be done by me beacuse I dont have the resources to.

Unfortunately, instead of a win-win situation where I can feel better and you get something back, your anger has caused a lose-lose situation but as I cant do anything about it, I will have to deal with it. Im sorry though about what kirk did.

As for everyone else, let me know what he/she took from you and ill try my best to give u something of similar value.

[renpeichenv2]

By the way, Annie, its Principal. Principle means something different. unless of course you were meaing to say principle.

[MisterBoll]

The best thing to do is to let this go.

This person is lying not only to everyone here but to themselves and they will never make amends because in their mind they have done nothing wrong.

[Jon Szanto]

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[renpeichenv2]

Misterboll. I am not lying and I am trying to make amends but no one is letting me.
Like I said, I am trying to let this go because I cannot prove I did not do this as I dont know how but I thought I would do a nice thing.

[renpeichenv2]

Oh and I would like to object to the title.
I have not done any scamming at all recently which I beleive is the topic of this thread.
I have admitted to planning to scam 3 individuals on here but stopping myself and admitting it to them which, after that, I have not done anything of the sort on here and on other online communities.
So I think the thread should be changed.

[Freddie]

Utterly fascinating reading...What a pair of cannolis..

Fred
"Somebody's gotta control this stuff....Why not me?
Why not you? ~ Danny Parente, who buys his
bread at Stanco's Bakery ~

[dr.grace]

The phrase "I have not done any scamming at all recently" is not a very convincing way to explain things.

[MisterBoll]

Give 'em enough rope.

[heraclitus682]

You tried to scam me. Am I one of the three you mention? Just curious.

[Chemyst]

Utterly fascinating reading...What a pair of cannolis..

I enjoy the pageantry of it all! The multiple accounts and sockpuppets, the circular arguing and the repeating plot points. The Renpei accounts faux umbrage, the Annie accounts repeated claims of the 'Mounties always getting their man' and the supposed closing in of Canadian law enforcement, only to be foiled at the last moment and of course, Flounder putting together periodic capsule summaries in case you missed an episode. Really, it is a great daytime drama!

[Chemyst]

You tried to scam me. Am I one of the three you mention? Just curious.


why Im willing to give all the victims (annie, woosang, tracy, flounder, i think thats all... im not sure)

Even Renpei can't keep it straight anymore, Heraclitus. You appear to be left off the most recent accounting of victims.

[Annie]

Utterly fascinating reading...What a pair of cannolis..

I enjoy the pageantry of it all! The multiple accounts and sockpuppets, the circular arguing and the repeating plot points. The Renpei accounts faux umbrage, the Annie accounts repeated claims of the 'Mounties always getting their man' and the supposed closing in of Canadian law enforcement, only to be foiled at the last moment and of course, Flounder putting together periodic capsule summaries in case you missed an episode. Really, it is a great daytime drama!

Really delighted to hear this is providing you with entertainment.

[Flounder]

I'm not sure how we reconcile "I dont have a credit card or a paypal account and I cannot send money. My paypal account was limited because I gave fake information (my age) and I cannot get on it...even if I did have the money" with the martyrish assertion that he will " take money from my own pocket to reimburse the victims".

Renpei, I have read your pastebin link. Sickening. You are a sick deviant. If I knew the person you're carrying a five month flame (http://www.girlsaskguys.com/Flirting-Questions/579453-i-think-she-likes-another-guy-any-advice-on-what.html) for, I would warn her you're not right in the head.

Unlike you, I don't feel the need to adopt multiple usernames and hidden agendas. I'm Flounder here, Flounder on FPN, run a blog lamely named FloundersMndthots. Likewise my youtube channel. I'm Bounder on WUS because Flounder was already taken. I'm not on Google+. Phil Kay (http://www.etsy.com/shop/QuillQuivers) runs an Etsy shop in canada. I'm not sure where Greg Weddig is based.

I'm in Scotland (you may detect a slight brogue in the Youtube videos I've posted here at FPG, FPN and my blog). I'm not a victim of any of your scams, and would have said so if I was. Dan has a forum to run but it's no concern of mine to spare your blushes. If you had defrauded me, I most definitely would have published every contact detail of yours I had on my blog & youtube account together with verbatim logs of all your correspondence.

Even if I were Phil, it is not my place to help you play mind games with your victims.

[CS388]

http://pastebin.com/BxijRJP6


Is that you talking about that person's dead father?

And you offer this in your defence?

Unforgivable!

[subramaniyam]

Wow. This thread (and related fraud threads) need to be adapted into a book or something. Esp. that pastebin log from Renpei (or Sheldor????? (why the big bang theory reference?)), which is er.... creepy, to say the least.

Watching this with interest as this provides a great topic for a psychology discussion.

Regards,
Sub