What is the blackest of black inks out there?

[NathanHale]

What is the blackest of black inks out there? I think I know the answer- but was wondering what the consensus is.

[Yazeh]

You might want to check these threads (https://fpgeeks.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3381477)

[NathanHale]

You might want to check these threads (https://fpgeeks.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3381477)

Getting this on your link:

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

[Yazeh]

Sorry search black ink and you get some interesting threads:

Here are three:

https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/34954-The-World-s-Blackest-Ink?highlight=blackest
https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/22425-Favorite-black-ink?highlight=blackest
https://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/19531-(Another-one)-The-blackest-black?highlight=blackest

[Chrissy]

As Yazeh says do an advanced search and you will find many threads. I tried :blackest ink and this recent thread (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/36390-Hunt-quot-Extra-Black-quot-FP-Ink?highlight=blackest+black) came up.

(@Yazeh - in order to paste your complete search results from post 2: when pasting the URL of the link into the Link box you need to remove the "s" from https:// It auto completes as http:// in the URL box but that always gets overwritten when pasting the link. FPG doesn't use secure links in all scenarios.)

[Yazeh]

@Chrissy thanks.

@NathanHale... the first question is do want the black to be waterproof/ resistant. If you don't care, the consensus is Aurora black/ Perle Noir (I haven't tried them, so I don't know).
If you want a waterproof ink, De Atramentis document black is recommended.
I once tested 3 Noodler's blacks: Heart of Darkness/ X- Feather and Polar Black. Polar black was the blackest. But Polar inks can be a pain for some. (Not for me, I have two pens permanently inked with them)

Your best bet, is buy a bunch of samples, and test them in your pens.

[Yazeh]

You can use this tool:

https://andersonpens.com/ink-tool/

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Note that differences become more visible with wider nibs. And if you don't write side by side, you won't see the difference :)

[Radonactionservices]

Not certain, but on a stub I find Sailor Kiwa-Guro to be very very dark!


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[TSherbs]

What is the blackest of black inks out there? I think I know the answer- but was wondering what the consensus is.

Please tell.

[FredRydr]

What is the blackest of black inks out there? I think I know the answer- but was wondering what the consensus is.
Buy pigmented "India ink" from an art supply store for a perfectly black experience, but never put it in your fountain pens! Use a drawing pen or dip pen. There is one fountain pen that is supposed to handle pigmented ink with aplomb: the Indigraph. (https://indigraph.myshopify.com) Their website states, "IndiGraph allows the use of Indian inks. What’s special about this? While using this type of ink, when the ink dries, a waterproof film of shellac is created which protects the drawing from water, making it ideal for working with watercolours or inking comics, among other graphic arts." One of these days, I'll try one.

[Wile E Coyote]

What is the blackest of black inks out there? I think I know the answer- but was wondering what the consensus is.
Buy pigmented "India ink" from an art supply store for a perfectly black experience, but never put it in your fountain pens! Use a drawing pen or dip pen. There is one fountain pen that is supposed to handle pigmented ink with aplomb: the Indigraph. (https://indigraph.myshopify.com) Their website states, "IndiGraph allows the use of Indian inks. What’s special about this? While using this type of ink, when the ink dries, a waterproof film of shellac is created which protects the drawing from water, making it ideal for working with watercolours or inking comics, among other graphic arts." One of these days, I'll try one.

Which india ink is the blackest?

[FredRydr]

Which india ink is the blackest?
It's pretty generic stuff, so when I ask for drawing ink, I end up getting generic India ink. Out of curiosity, I did buy some R&K's drawing ink, but I found no advantage. Here's what's in my ink box that never goes into my fountain pens:

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[Yazeh]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)

[Wile E Coyote]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)

Now you have me wondering where technical pen ink fits in the blackness wars.

[FredRydr]

Now you have me wondering where technical pen ink fits in the blackness wars.
Which water is best for flushing black ink from pens?

[Wile E Coyote]

Now you have me wondering where technical pen ink fits in the blackness wars.
Which water is best for flushing black ink from pens?

Deionized

If you're flushing BSB, you should use D2O.

[FredRydr]

Deionized. If you're flushing BSB, you should use D2O.
Not Fujiwater?

[Wile E Coyote]

Deionized. If you're flushing BSB, you should use D2O.
Not Fujiwater?

Fukushima water, maybe.

[Yazeh]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)


Now you have me wondering where technical pen ink fits in the blackness wars.

I also used once a German IG Ink, Bach's Dip pen ink. I was surprised how the ink, turned from sky blue to a shiny black!

[TSherbs]

What is the blackest of black inks out there? I think I know the answer- but was wondering what the consensus is.

And so your idea is...which?

[calamus]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)

I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the :) supposed to indicate you were joking?]
(So sue me, sushi!)

[Chrissy]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the :) supposed to indicate you were joking?]
(So sue me, sushi!)

You're right it isn't. :) Also as far as drawing inks are concerned, Sumi ink isn't as black as India ink. Sumi ink vs India ink (http://www.reddit.com/r/learnart/comments/ml97x/sumi_ink_vs_india_ink_what_are_the_differences/)

[Yazeh]

Which india ink is the blackest?

Sumi ink :)I don't think sumi ink is the same as India ink. [Was the :) supposed to indicate you were joking?]
(So sue me, sushi!)

You're right it isn't. :) Also as far as drawing inks are concerned, Sumi ink isn't as black as India ink. Sumi ink vs India ink (http://www.reddit.com/r/learnart/comments/ml97x/sumi_ink_vs_india_ink_what_are_the_differences/)

Interestin article. Funnily enough, when I was practicing calligraphy I switched from India to Sumi ink (the liquid form). I found it blacker and shinier. But then again it was a longtime ago, and we all know how accurate memory can be :)

[Quyonemarwy]

I use some of Deionized, and that better f me!

[FredRydr]

I use some of Deionized, and that better f me!
But only if used in hydrostatic fountain pens.

[Cyril]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tox5-jSGc
This is quite an interesting Video about the science of Black Ink.
Whatever the ink is black it's opacity and the light absorbs-on quality varies on paper to paper that is used.
To my understanding if you use one chosen black ink on <<different papers >> your writing or drawing looks different with luminosity I guess.
Different ink too has varied opacity in their pigments to react with Paper fibres so they reflect light back as " black" to "very black "or to "very very very black "

[Lloyd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tox5-jSGc
This is quite an interesting Video about the science of Black Ink.
Whatever the ink is black it's opacity and the light absorbs-on quality varies on paper to paper that is used.
To my understanding if you use one chosen black ink on your writing or drawing looks different with luminosity I guess.
Different ink too has varied opacity in their pigments to react with Paper fibres so they reflect light back as " black" to "very black "or to "very very very black "
While that Noodlers Black is one of my all time favorite inks and color (or lack of color) that video had nothing to do with color. It only demonstrated the ink's opacity and low-feathering properties. A white latex paint would show the same results.... not that I'd use paint in a pen.

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[Cyril]

I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.

[Lloyd]

I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.
His light meter was only being used in the video to measure light passing through the coated paper. Any color latex paint, or similarly opaque appliable media, would yield the same result.

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[Cyril]

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A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
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M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
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I don't argue with experts and I don't have that skills and ~I never want it too.... so I :agree:

[Lloyd]

He doesn't show the reflectance of the ink. The color we see is based on the light that is reflected off of the front of the page. He's showing what light is passed through a saturated piece of paper.

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[FredRydr]

Don't tell me there are flat black, semi-flat black and glossy black fountain pen inks!

[Lloyd]

Don't tell me there are flat black, semi-flat black and glossy black fountain pen inks!
Not yet. Perhaps Nathan will release them at some upcoming pen show. Was there was a Benjamin Moore or Sherwin Williams in politics to raise his ire?

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[Cyril]

I think this that films is to talk how the opacity in any ink, light transfer and bleeding etc. ( Nathan shows it with his black ink) It is Nothing to do with the COLOUR. and I am not talking about colours on above post...????. But colours also act differently to light transfer too I believe.
Here we are talking about Black ink and quality of different black ink will give different reading on that light meter he uses.
His light meter was only being used in the video to measure light passing through the coated paper. Any color latex paint, or similarly opaque appliable media, would yield the same result.

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