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Yazeh
April 30th, 2022, 03:47 PM
Artist inks are made with nanoparticles fountain pens, brushes etc. to paint and draw. Inks are lightfast and waterproof. However, when I contacted De Atramentis they told me that Document ink is more lightfast than Artist line.
The Artist Dark Red ink looks especially nice on white paper.
TR 68gr paper - Photo in direct sunlight - Fude nib.
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same text scan (text is famous French renaissance poem/ pavane by Thoinot Arbeau, you can listen to the music here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1X2_srtJnE))
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Hammermill paper - 90 - Medium nib
https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/fpngallery/monthly_2022_04/small.1771227241_Hammermill1.jpeg.34f97b4da704cecc 1e54045ed0df8566.jpeg

HP 32
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Rhodia - Medium nib and Ahab flex
https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/fpngallery/monthly_2022_04/small.Rhodia.jpeg.e3f14ad762bc8d2c7d9abbd1cb603030 .jpeg
Dry time on TR 68gr paper is very long, as you can see. But it is acceptable on Rhodia (45 seconds). If the paper is absorbent it's almost immediate.
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Unlike cellulose reactive inks, this one preforms fairly good on cheep/ thin paper. However, cellulose reactive inks dry much faster.
https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/fpngallery/monthly_2022_04/small.279601510_Cheap1.jpeg.d22d446f19c9e679aef3ce 155267bd22.jpeg

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/fpngallery/monthly_2022_04/small.300659044_Cheap-Back.jpeg.42cad7c6e23149a9bd9c010128ad93b5.jpeg

The bottles are different from the typical De Atramentis bottles (photo curtesy of Jane Blundell (https://janeblundellart.blogspot.com/2020/10/de-atramentis-artist-inks.html))
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When I was preparing my swatches, I thought both Document and Artist inks are the same, as you can see below
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But in practice they are dissimilar in colour and behavior. Document Dark Red is lighter and surprisingly drier.
However, Document and Artist inks can be mixed interchangeably ( I asked from the folks at De Atramentis)
Comparison on Midori.
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Water resistance: (right side was held under water)- Paper Mnemosyne
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· Pens used: Jinaho 450, Fude/ Medium, Ahab flex
· Shading: Yes. Depending pen paper combo. But more visible on screen than to the naked eye ;)
· Ghosting: None
· Bleed through: On rare instances.
· Flow Rate: Good
· Lubrication: Decent
· Nib Dry-out: Not noticed
· Start-up: Not noticed
· Saturation: Dark red
· Shading Potential: Depending Paper.
· Sheen: None
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Not noticed on paper. With heavy application there might be some.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: No
· Staining (pen): Time will say.
· Clogging: Only time will say. But none so far.
· Water resistance: Excellent
· Availability: 50 ml bottles

DrPenfection
April 30th, 2022, 11:04 PM
Great review, Yazeh! Thank you for taking the time to do this!

I was wondering what the difference was between the Artist line and Document inks. Thank you for providing the answer.

OCArt
May 3rd, 2022, 07:31 PM
Thank you for posting this interesting review

calamus
May 10th, 2022, 11:47 PM
One of the interesting things about their document inks is that you can get cyan (now called turquoise), yellow, magenta (now called fuchsia) and black (cmyk) as well as white, and mix up any color you want using its cmyk breakdown. (Those are the inks used in "4-color" full color printing.)