Spencerian writing

[Cyril]

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[Zoe]

Beautiful pens and penmanship. Is that last pen the Kakimori?

[Chrissy]

Cyril, Thank you for such lovely writing. I'm in awe of anyone who can produce writing like that from those writing instruments. :hail::hail:
When you get some spare time I would really appreciate it if you might write out an alphabet of lower and upper case letters so that we could all see them. :)

[arrow]

I am still on the basic Spencerian penmanship, with a flex dip nib and correct touch of shading it is not half bad. You would not believe the issues I had when I started, basic writing skills all over again and then some. I have setbacks, periods when I don`t write, and on it again.

Your slants, loops and the swirls are very good. I have the basic tutorial books with the practice sheets and strokes. I am looking for the Ornamental Spencerian book, and I think there is a few versions of this. A "a ladies hand" is one of them.

I have started to look at writing on old paper, from the the last decades of 19 century to about 1930.

[Robalone]

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[Prettypenguin]

I haven’t used it yet (May was a heavy acquisition month, and I already have 4 pens inked), but I received a Jinhao x450 with the feed modified and a G nib installed. The nib itself has a gorgeous shape. It’s next on my list for inking.

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Is anyone using the titanium or chromium coated G-nibs? I have to order some for a pen I have. Dip nib and fountain pen are just not the same even if G-nibs are dip nibs. Brause have all stainless models, if some of them were compatible with the g-nibs...

[Yazeh]

I haven’t used it yet (May was a heavy acquisition month, and I already have 4 pens inked), but I received a Jinhao x450 with the feed modified and a G nib installed. The nib itself has a gorgeous shape. It’s next on my list for inking.

Ink it when you're ready of real practice. In my experience the nib will survive for 3 weeks, then it'll rust...

[Yazeh]

Is anyone using the titanium or chromium coated G-nibs? I have to order some for a pen I have. Dip nib and fountain pen are just not the same even if G-nibs are dip nibs. Brause have all stainless models, if some of them were compatible with the g-nibs...

You can get an Ackerman pens (https://ackermanpens.com/collections/all) if you're patient. It takes a long time to get them, I would say, almost 3 months. They work more or less fine with different inks. And have special feeds for fountain pen and none fountain pen ink. And you can get them with an overfeed too.

[Prettypenguin]

Arrow- if you’ve been using a G nib, any dip pen nib that is equal to a size 6 nib should work. If there’s a particular nib that you like, put it against the feed and see if it fits. You have to flatten the tail a bit as the curve is too deep. I was going to try a blue pumpkin for funsies when it’s time to replace the g nib.

[Cyril]

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Amazingly this guy kidnaps all the threads everywhere !!!!! :offtopic:
Why doesn't he sees any difference and calm down a bit????? :noidea: Or else why not create his own threads???? :noidea:

[Robalone]

Whoa dude ….chill .

Just love pens !!! Just love writing. These nibs are great for Spencerian!

And……kidnaps all the threads ????? Really ??

Does sound a bit like you have some resentment going on …. I’m sorry if I’ve triggered it .

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Quick question, and certainly not a judgement of anyone, but do any of the participants here use guidelines for Spencerian practice? As I understand, not well at all really, the slants should be around 52 degrees (I think). Having said that, I sometimes write this way without guidelines and choose a slant that simply looks good to the eye. (I probably should use a guide to help with uniformity)

[manoeuver]

Quick question, and certainly not a judgement of anyone, but do any of the participants here use guidelines for Spencerian practice? As I understand, not well at all really, the slants should be around 52 degrees (I think). Having said that, I sometimes write this way without guidelines and choose a slant that simply looks good to the eye. (I probably should use a guide to help with uniformity)

I've used the guide sheets that come with Michael Sull's American Cursive Handwriting, which is based on Spencerian script (basically it's Spencerian without the shades, or flexed thicker lines.) They work a treat.
https://timhofmann.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2022-06-22-08.20.59-scaled-e1655900703644.jpg

[Empty_of_Clouds]

What happens when you run out of sheets? I'm guessing there is a limited quantity in the book, so are they available to order separately?

Just had a rummage through my books and see that I have a copy of 'Learning to Write Spencerian Script' by Michael and Debra Sull, but there doesn't appear to be any guide sheets with it unless I've lost them along the way somewhere.

[manoeuver]

What happens when you run out of sheets? I'm guessing there is a limited quantity in the book, so are they available to order separately?

Just had a rummage through my books and see that I have a copy of 'Learning to Write Spencerian Script' by Michael and Debra Sull, but there doesn't appear to be any guide sheets with it unless I've lost them along the way somewhere.

I've got it scanned somewhere, I can make copies. Michael sells them in padded form at spencerian.com also.

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Thanks, Tim, that's awesome 👌

[Yazeh]

Question to those who regularly practice a certain handwritng

Has your "normal" day to day handwriting been affected positively while practicing let's say, Spencerian, when you write with a letter or jot in your diary etc.?

[Empty_of_Clouds]

For me not really. In fact for note taking I've switched to printing.

[manoeuver]

Question to those who regularly practice a certain handwritng

Has your "normal" day to day handwriting been affected positively while practicing let's say, Spencerian, when you write with a letter or jot in your diary etc.?

this is a great question with a bizarre answer.

YES, my day-to-day handwriting changed when I was practicing ACH daily.
I'd say only when I was at my peak of practicing would you mistake my handwriting for anyone else's.
As soon as I slacked off a little, my handwriting was very very good but unmistakably mine, with resemblance to handwriting from decades ago even.
It's the difference between handwriting and calligraphy.

now when I'm writing carelessly you wouldn't know I'd studied penmanship. If I try hard I can get really consistent letter shapes and spacing across the page, but the letter shapes are all mine, not Spencer's.

[Robalone]

Is anyone using the titanium or chromium coated G-nibs? I have to order some for a pen I have. Dip nib and fountain pen are just not the same even if G-nibs are dip nibs. Brause have all stainless models, if some of them were compatible with the g-nibs...

Arrow, I use G nibs (zebra) in both dippers and FPs, and have found over the course of several years, that a 'stainless' ( well silver anyway) lasts around 6- 8 months in a fountain pen situation before exhibiting corrosion…. This, with iroshizuku inks predominately.

However, I’ve bought a box of the ‘titanium' (gold) ones, and disturbingly they have corroded much quicker !! Again this in a fountain pen.

The ones I use with dippers last considerably longer as I wipe them clean after use.

Again, this could all be dependent on inks, so it’s hard to come up with a definitive answer.

Hope this helps.

[Doggy Daddy]

What happens when you run out of sheets? I'm guessing there is a limited quantity in the book, so are they available to order separately?

There are several websites that allow you to create custom guide sheets, but this one is the most comprehensive I have found. It's called "Build Your Guide Sheet":

<http://lanquach.com/guidesheet/>

The "Templates" drop-down selection allows you to choose from several preset template designs. If you don't see one you want to use, the page allows you to easily create almost any guide sheet you would like & save it as a PDF. Just play with it a bit to find the settings for the type of sheet you want. If the sliders do not give you the numeric value you want for line spacing or slant degree angle, you can also enter the exact number you want. The sample sheet shows your changes almost immediately. Hope you find this useful.

[Cyril]

It is important to know how to make your own Guide lines on your own writing paper to plan your lay out. Guide lines are very important and once you are serious about consistency of your writing arrangements you need guide lines to create it.
I do it manually.

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[Cyril]

Beautiful pens and penmanship. Is that last pen the Kakimori?

@Zoe That pen is Kaweco All-steel pen !!


Cyril, Thank you for such lovely writing. I'm in awe of anyone who can produce writing like that from those writing instruments. :hail::hail:
When you get some spare time I would really appreciate it if you might write out an alphabet of lower and upper case letters so that we could all see them. :)
@Chrissy . Thank you Chrissy and I'll write out an alphabet of lower and Upper case letters. Sorry I have missed this post for some times . I'll do is when I have a bit time . Thank you for your appreciation... :)