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Yazeh
August 9th, 2023, 11:32 AM
This ink like and it’s artsy sibling reminds me of watermelon juice. It’s a pinkish red. I’ve done a back-to-back review of both and frankly I don’t see much of a difference between them other than Artsy is slightly darker.
The ink is nothing like Noodler's Fox Red, that I reviewed recently. Frankly it's an underwhelming ink. However, if you need a good waterproof ink for editing it's a decent.

Let's start with the chroma:
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Writing samples:
I realized in retrospect, that I don't have a fine Kaweco, so the fine is Medium, Medium is B and B is double broad. My apologies :redface:
Poem is Adrift (https://grateful.org/resource/adrift/) by Mark Nepo.
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Minimal ghosting on Hammermill.
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Photo: You see the real colour. The more absorbent the colour the paler the ink.
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Comparison:
Artist seems slightly darker.
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Watertest
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As usual as artwork, entitled: Dreaming of watermelon in a heat wave, it was inspired by @LizEF Colorverse Redwood forrest review.
Inks used:
Green: R&K Alt-Goldgrün
Orange: Noodler's Apache sunset
I mixed the orange / green at the the horizon level ;)
Black: Pentel Brush pen
Red: De Atramentis Document Red
Bright green: Pastel
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Spade and heart...
Pentel Brush nib /Document Red

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· Pens used: Pilot Kakuna Ef/Stub Kaweco (EF/M/B/BB), Kanwrite Ultraflex
· What I liked: Teaching me to write with a feather hand :)
· What I did not like: Not lubricated, palish red
· What some might not like: Dry, the colour, daytimes.
· Shading: None.
· Ghosting: Faint on copy paper.
· Bleed through: None
· Flow Rate: Alright.
· Lubrication: It won’t make your scratchy nib glide.
· Nib Dry-out: No.
· Start-up: No.
· Saturation: Nope.
· Shading Potential: Dismal
· Sheen: None
· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: None.
· Nib Creep / “Crud”: A bit
· Staining (pen): No.
· Clogging: No.
· Cleaning: Normal. Like most pigment inks the more it stays in the pne the more you need to soak. But I didn’t need to use pen flush.
· Water resistance: Excellent.
· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier :)

LizEF
August 9th, 2023, 12:45 PM
Thank you, Yazeh, for enduring an uninspired, washed out sort of red to bring us wonderful kitties, a cute little red fox, a sad broken heart, and the hopefully soon to be added fun artwork! :) (Can't see the image in there, assume a temporary glitch.) Congrats on attaining feather hand!

Yazeh
August 9th, 2023, 01:50 PM
Thank you, Yazeh, for enduring an uninspired, washed out sort of red to bring us wonderful kitties, a cute little red fox, a sad broken heart, and the hopefully soon to be added fun artwork! :) (Can't see the image in there, assume a temporary glitch.) Congrats on attaining feather hand!

Most welcome. And thanks for letting me know. I just corrected the links! Yay, finally I got feather hand, it must be the combination of using the brush pen and not wanting to feel scratchy nibs :bounce:

LizEF
August 9th, 2023, 02:37 PM
And thanks for letting me know. I just corrected the links!

:) No problem - it can be tedious posting reviews, thus making the obvious easy to miss.


Yay, finally I got feather hand, it must be the combination of using the brush pen and not wanting to feel scratchy nibs :bounce:

:D Exactly! It can take a lot of practice / conscious effort to keep it up.

(Meanwhile, just had some watermelon for dessert! ;) )

Yazeh
August 10th, 2023, 01:01 AM
:) No problem - it can be tedious posting reviews, thus making the obvious easy to miss.


Yay, finally I got feather hand, it must be the combination of using the brush pen and not wanting to feel scratchy nibs :bounce:

:D Exactly! It can take a lot of practice / conscious effort to keep it up.
The art of letting go :)


(Meanwhile, just had some watermelon for dessert! ;) )
Without watermelon syrup I hope :D

LizEF
August 10th, 2023, 07:21 AM
Without watermelon syrup I hope :D

Yeah, just plain old watermelon. Yum.

Sailor Kenshin
August 10th, 2023, 11:31 AM
A watermelon boat and watermelon ink. Perfect for summer.

Did the kitteh and mouse get any watermelon? (I had a kitteh who loved canteloupe).

The first three inks look very much alike, and I might actually want a color like this, so many thanks, Yazeh, for bringing us another great illustrated review..

Yazeh
August 10th, 2023, 12:02 PM
A watermelon boat and watermelon ink. Perfect for summer.

Did the kitteh and mouse get any watermelon? (I had a kitteh who loved canteloupe).
I don't know.Probably after they traversed the orange sea :)

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The first three inks look very much alike, and I might actually want a color like this, so many thanks, Yazeh, for bringing us another great illustrated review..
If you want the rest of my sample, PM, me :) and most welcome :bounce: