Jeph
September 22nd, 2013, 01:21 PM
I managed to pick up 3 green Pelikan 400/M400 bodies, attractive because they included a pair of 14K nibs. They were listed as friction fit bodies, but I thought that was talking about the piston units. Instead, the sections have no threading, just a green acrylic sleeve and some lengthwise ribs to hold the nib units. Although the piston units are also friction fit.
But mine do not appear to match what is listed here:
1950 400 Friction Nib (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/186560-pelikan-400-friction-fit-nib-unit/)
It does look like what is shown here, except that feed looks to extend farther behind the back of the nib than the more modern version that I have.
1982 M400 Friction Fit Nib (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/186288-need-help-to-id-a-pelikan-m400with-a-friction-fit-nib/)
The 2 that came with nibs installed have the clear piston seals and an unadorned piston knob. The other one has a black rubber piston seal and the words Pelikan W-Germany imprinted on the top of the knob. The piston housing (cone) on this one is also different, and has a “V3” hand vibro etched on it.
None of the 3 bodies have any other markings whatsoever. (No “DRP”)
I don’t have caps.
The one with the black piston seal and knob imprint also has threads in the barrel for the last 7/16 inch, as if for a screw-in piston unit. The other two have lines visible under strong light that look like threads but the inside of the barrel is smooth, so it appears that the threads were initially cut and then removed.
The nibs themselves do not help much, since one is the old style (lines converge on the feed slit) and one is the newer style (lines stop short of the feed slit) but both are after 1950. Add in the fact that it looks like both nibs are riding on modern M100/M150 feeds with a thin metal plain collar (bush) instead of the ebonite one like in the picture of the ’50 version. They have between .002 and .005 slip fit between the back of the feed and the section sleeve, with a similar amount between the metal bush and the section mouth, and .001-.002 slip fit between the metal bush and the section mouth ridges.
So, other than a pair of nice 14K nibs, what do I have here? Two flavors of the ’82 version, one ’50 and two ‘82’s or something else?
Since I suspect that they are both ’82 versions, does anyone have any details (i.e. dimensions, special attributes such as the split tail like the ’50 version) about the feeds used for the ’82 friction fit models?
Is finding a replacement ’50/'82 version specialized feed going to be similar to finding a 1935 lizard in an old desk drawer?
I will still be happy simply transplanting these 2 nibs to new homes, but these things get interesting.
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But mine do not appear to match what is listed here:
1950 400 Friction Nib (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/186560-pelikan-400-friction-fit-nib-unit/)
It does look like what is shown here, except that feed looks to extend farther behind the back of the nib than the more modern version that I have.
1982 M400 Friction Fit Nib (http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/186288-need-help-to-id-a-pelikan-m400with-a-friction-fit-nib/)
The 2 that came with nibs installed have the clear piston seals and an unadorned piston knob. The other one has a black rubber piston seal and the words Pelikan W-Germany imprinted on the top of the knob. The piston housing (cone) on this one is also different, and has a “V3” hand vibro etched on it.
None of the 3 bodies have any other markings whatsoever. (No “DRP”)
I don’t have caps.
The one with the black piston seal and knob imprint also has threads in the barrel for the last 7/16 inch, as if for a screw-in piston unit. The other two have lines visible under strong light that look like threads but the inside of the barrel is smooth, so it appears that the threads were initially cut and then removed.
The nibs themselves do not help much, since one is the old style (lines converge on the feed slit) and one is the newer style (lines stop short of the feed slit) but both are after 1950. Add in the fact that it looks like both nibs are riding on modern M100/M150 feeds with a thin metal plain collar (bush) instead of the ebonite one like in the picture of the ’50 version. They have between .002 and .005 slip fit between the back of the feed and the section sleeve, with a similar amount between the metal bush and the section mouth, and .001-.002 slip fit between the metal bush and the section mouth ridges.
So, other than a pair of nice 14K nibs, what do I have here? Two flavors of the ’82 version, one ’50 and two ‘82’s or something else?
Since I suspect that they are both ’82 versions, does anyone have any details (i.e. dimensions, special attributes such as the split tail like the ’50 version) about the feeds used for the ’82 friction fit models?
Is finding a replacement ’50/'82 version specialized feed going to be similar to finding a 1935 lizard in an old desk drawer?
I will still be happy simply transplanting these 2 nibs to new homes, but these things get interesting.
555555565557555855595560