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Paul-H
October 2nd, 2013, 11:06 AM
Removed content because I cannot be bothered with the petty bickering that my attempt to share my progress with pen repairs has attracted.

I shall not bother again.

Bye

Perhaps a Mod would be so kind as lo lock this thread or delete it.

Thanks

Jeph
October 2nd, 2013, 11:28 AM
That looks awful good to me. I would call taht success!

:applause:

KrazyIvan
October 2nd, 2013, 11:50 AM
That looks pretty darn good. Congrats.

cwent2
October 2nd, 2013, 04:33 PM
Yes indeed, I agree, most excellent work!

Robert
October 2nd, 2013, 04:54 PM
Very educational post. Thanks very much!

Mags
October 5th, 2013, 07:40 AM
Well done looks perfect to me.


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JuicyJones
October 11th, 2013, 09:48 AM
That is awesome.

Rick Krantz
December 3rd, 2013, 08:02 PM
nice work. the Lustraloy (metal) caps are "difficult" the silver and GF caps (and solid gold) are a lot more forgiving. If you did that with a lustraloy on your first try, you are well on the path to being a pro!

Jon Szanto
December 3rd, 2013, 08:16 PM
Nicely done, Paul!

Tony Rex
December 3rd, 2013, 08:20 PM
Well done, mate!

Paul-H
December 4th, 2013, 12:21 AM
Thanks

I have done quite a few more since that one, and a few 61 caps and all have been a total success so far (Fingers Crossed). The tool although expensive has already paid for itself by not having to send these caps out for repair at £10 a pop.

Paul

kirchh
December 4th, 2013, 07:38 AM
Thanks

I have done quite a few more since that one, and a few 61 caps and all have been a total success so far (Fingers Crossed). The tool although expensive has already paid for itself by not having to send these caps out for repair at £10 a pop.

Paul

Though at £10 for a "51" cap restoration, you get what you pay for.

--Daniel

Paul-H
December 4th, 2013, 09:39 AM
Nope sorry not going to bite.

Every cap I have had done by the people that charge £10 has been first class and cannot be faulted, I bought the bits because I wanted to do it myself, not because I was unhappy with what I was having done.

Also as it happens of all the people in the Uk that do cap repairs £10 was the highest charged.

Where do you get yours done and how much do they charge or more importantly how much are you prepared to pay;)

Paul

kirchh
December 4th, 2013, 10:04 AM
Every cap I have had done by the people that charge £10 has been first class and cannot be faulted

I understand that you consider the work first class especially for the money charged; I consider the work to be roughly commensurate with the money charged, but not first class in an absolute sense. I will note that when you initially made your assessment of one such repair, you thought you were looking at the previously dented area of the cap, and you deemed the cap almost like new, but you later discovered that you were actually examining a portion of the shell that was previously without a dent. I am somewhat surprised that your assessment was not revised when you came to this realization.

Given the amount of labor involved in performing a top-notch restoration of a "51" cap, I'm surprised that every restorer in the UK charges £10 or less for this repair. Peter Twydle charges no less than £20 for any repair, though perhaps he does not offer this particular service.

--Daniel

everybodylovesbacon
December 4th, 2013, 10:14 AM
You did a great job. That pen looks fantastic!

Paul-H
December 4th, 2013, 01:06 PM
Every cap I have had done by the people that charge £10 has been first class and cannot be faulted

I understand that you consider the work first class especially for the money charged; I consider the work to be roughly commensurate with the money charged, but not first class in an absolute sense. I will note that when you initially made your assessment of one such repair, you thought you were looking at the previously dented area of the cap, and you deemed the cap almost like new, but you later discovered that you were actually examining a portion of the shell that was previously without a dent. I am somewhat surprised that your assessment was not revised when you came to this realization.

Given the amount of labor involved in performing a top-notch restoration of a "51" cap, I'm surprised that every restorer in the UK charges £10 or less for this repair. Peter Twydle charges no less than £20 for any repair, though perhaps he does not offer this particular service.

--Daniel

Going back to the original repair that you are quoting, yes we did establish the the area shown was not quite the same area where the dent was, which although you took to be a negative, I took to be a positive as the repair was so good I had not noticed I was now looking at a slightly different area and it was only slightly the original damaged area was still visible even though the repair was invisible, which is what made it so effective.

Also going back to your repair which you where un-happy with, it was regarded by most who sat through your tirade of abuse towards the repair person that you where just being picky for the sake of being picky and I bet he along with many others are glad you no longer send your work to them. Although it should be noted that even you where happy to accept one of these £10 repairs where you not.

As for Peter Twydle its my understanding that he no longer accepts pens for repair so his prices are mute.

Now go back to your own tread as this one has nothing to do with you experience with one repair person does it as it was not me was it?

Bye

kirchh
December 4th, 2013, 01:13 PM
Every cap I have had done by the people that charge £10 has been first class and cannot be faulted

I understand that you consider the work first class especially for the money charged; I consider the work to be roughly commensurate with the money charged, but not first class in an absolute sense. I will note that when you initially made your assessment of one such repair, you thought you were looking at the previously dented area of the cap, and you deemed the cap almost like new, but you later discovered that you were actually examining a portion of the shell that was previously without a dent. I am somewhat surprised that your assessment was not revised when you came to this realization.

Given the amount of labor involved in performing a top-notch restoration of a "51" cap, I'm surprised that every restorer in the UK charges £10 or less for this repair. Peter Twydle charges no less than £20 for any repair, though perhaps he does not offer this particular service.

--Daniel

Going back to the original repair that you are quoting, yes we did establish the the area shown was not quite the same area where the dent was, which although you took to be a negative, I took to be a positive as the repair was so good I had not noticed I was now looking at a slightly different area and it was only slightly the original damaged area was still visible even though the repair was invisible, which is what made it so effective.

Also going back to your repair which you where un-happy with, it was regarded by most who sat through your tirade of abuse towards the repair person that you where just being picky for the sake of being picky and I bet he along with many others are glad you no longer send your work to them. Although it should be noted that even you where happy to accept one of these £10 repairs where you not.

As for Peter Twydle its my understanding that he no longer accepts pens for repair so his prices are mute.

Now go back to your own tread as this one has nothing to do with you experience with one repair person does it as it was not me was it?

Bye
What?

--Daniel

hamag
December 4th, 2013, 09:43 PM
Great work!
I'm starting to collect FPens and also learning how to fix them myself.
Yours is a wonderful job, maybe some day I'll be as apt as you.
Cheers from Buenos Aires
Horacio

kirchh
December 6th, 2013, 09:03 AM
As for Peter Twydle its my understanding that he no longer accepts pens for repair so his prices are mute.


Peter Twydle is taking repairs and he currently has about a 10-day turnaround time, so his prices are hardly "mute" (I assume you mean "moot"). His starting price is £20.

You might want to review your last response to me for accuracy. You appear to be rather confused.

--Daniel

dduran
December 6th, 2013, 10:04 AM
I've been looking at pen repair reviews lately and this "self-service fix" has been the best I've see so far :)

Flounder
December 19th, 2013, 12:45 PM
Not sure how much of this needs to be said and how much is redundant:

1. It was myself who pointed out that your before and after photos couldn't match up.

2. I didn't do so to be picky, to catch you out, or to axe grind. I did so because no one else did, even those who purported to have noticed same... after thanking you for the b & a as a useful post. There was no 'angle' I was fishing for, just the truth, and I was grateful you accommodated.

3. I'm not Daniel Kirchheimer, a US based restorer specialising in P51 cap restoration. I recommend reading his article on P51 cap venting for an idea of the efforts he puts into a 'top notch' restoration. I'm particularly impressed by the vent notch rounding in early inner caps.

4. Regardless of what you think of me, I've got nothing against you and am impressed you went ahead and bought the tools necessary to try this yourself.

KrazyIvan
December 19th, 2013, 05:59 PM
Paul, your original post had information that noob repairers could use. Don't let nit picking from others get to you. I encourage you to repost your material.