View Full Version : Waterman - What is this?

Tracy Lee
October 27th, 2013, 11:44 AM
Found it in my pen box. The non says "WATERMAN'S REG. U.S. PAT. OFF (the meaning of which is clear) but that is all. Tarnish tells me sterling silver, it is a lever fill and the lever has the Waterman "Ideal" stamp. A loop on one end says to me it belongs on a chain. The other end says 452 and below that 1/2 V. It's tiny (to me) and I put it with the TWSBI 580 for comparison. It is engraved with a leaf and flower motif, with an area left on the body for engraving maybe? I have a vague recollection someone gave this to me but it's not sentimental.


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October 27th, 2013, 12:09 PM
Waterman's 452 1/2 not the filigree though. Looks like a keeper. Here is the filigree http://youtu.be/9s4O0pkUU2A

It's not the same design as the Art Deco either.

October 31st, 2013, 12:22 PM
I don't know what it is, but it's purdy!:cool:

October 31st, 2013, 12:31 PM
Neat looking pen

April 16th, 2014, 01:28 PM
Well aren't you just a lucky person. That would fit so well in my waistcoat pocket, opposite my watch.

April 16th, 2014, 04:27 PM
It's a purse pen or vest pocket pen. I found a similar pen made by Edison (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/2378-What-is-your-latest-pen-acquisition?p=51749&viewfull=1#post51749) last year. Haven't had the time to restore it yet, unfortunately.

Richard Binder's site has a chart for Waterman's numbering system (http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/design/wat_nos.htm). According to it, your pen is:

4 = Sterling overlay, barrel and cap
5 = Lever filler (LF)
2 = Nib size (second smallest)

1/2 = Slender model
V = Vest pocket (short) model

May 1st, 2014, 04:39 PM
The pattern on this overlay is called Hand Engraved Vine. It was generally the most expensive of the commonly offered Waterman overlay patterns.

June 2nd, 2014, 12:10 AM
The image in the forum is really awesome as of the description

November 29th, 2014, 01:04 AM

Hand Engraved Vine. This was the most expensive of the standard catalogued overlay patterns, and the only one for which clips and levers were engraved to match.

If you want to sell it let me know.... I have the same pen.... I would like to have a pair...