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fountainpenkid
November 4th, 2013, 05:41 PM
Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any known examples of 1st gen vacs w/ a 2nd gen blind cap...see here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parker-Vacumatic-long-model-/251372077390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a86f1814e

david i
November 4th, 2013, 06:43 PM
Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any known examples of 1st gen vacs w/ a 2nd gen blind cap...see here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parker-Vacumatic-long-model-/251372077390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a86f1814e

2nd generation long blind caps often will fit 1st gen standard pens. Mixes happen.However, there is that which I named the 1.5th generation Standard. Exact measurements matter to be safe.

Some links, as the most detailed discussion of the real deal on these has been over at Fountain Pen Board.

http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/5108-two-strange-green-vacs/

http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/312-an-os-or-a-standard-vac/

Pen 2 here: http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1559-burgundy-vac-quiz/

Someone (cough cough) once wrote the following about these:

The last of the lockdown "Standards", it typically is
seen with 1939 datecode. Having the cap and barrel threads of a typical
"Standard" (lockdown three pen) the barrel is of intermediate length
between a Standard and a later Major. Noting that those two pens are
about of same overall length (usually), the longer blindcap of the
Major (speedline pen) necessitates a shorter barrel to make overall
length the same as the earlier lockdown-fill Standard. Note that the
cap of a Standard will not fit a Major and vice versa. One cannot make
up this pen just by swapping caps. Upshot is that with the intermediate
length barrel and with the long blindcap/speedline filler assembly as
seen with your pen, the resultiing pen tends to be longer than any
Major or Standard and sometimes longer than any Maxima.

Given that the Standard is (as a lock-fill) a 1st generation pen and
given that the Major (speedline fill) is a 2nd generation pen (by at
least one appraoch to organizing these) and given that parker did make
a true 2nd generation "Streamlined" Standard which is different from
either of those and different from your pen, this pen indeed is an odd
duck, but likely a kosher odd duck- let's call it a 1.5th Generation
Standard, just to abuse the jargon as much as possible :-)

regards

David

fountainpenkid
November 4th, 2013, 08:41 PM
It seems that with vacs, whatever could exist does exist! The seller says the pen is 14cm (5.5 in) uncapped, which makes it quite long; one cm longer than a 1st gen oversize or slender oversize. I think this one is just a mismatch, but that is interesting that they actually made an intermediate barrel length.