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PeppWaves03
May 8th, 2012, 06:24 AM
Does Nyone know if anyone has posted line measurements for the lines produced by the various nibs Twsbi has? I know the Goulets have the "nook" but it's pretty hard to use without having measurements of the lines the nibs produce.

KrazyIvan
May 8th, 2012, 09:39 AM
It is kind of hard to do a definite measurement because it is going to change with the ink and paper, never mind flow adjustments.

PeppWaves03
May 8th, 2012, 10:17 AM
I was able to find this:

http://www.nibs.com/TippingSizespage.htm

and this:

http://www.richardspens.com/pdf/strokewidths.pdf

I dont have a retailer that has TWSBI widths nor does TWSBI itself provide the information. I dont understand why, it seems like retailers could benefit greatly. I would imagine pens are returned because the nibs are too wide or too narrow.

PeppWaves03
May 8th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Ok, I am assuming TWSBI uses Bock nibs for the Vac 700? I read on a different forum that Montegrapa uses Bock nibs. So looking the nib.com nib spec sheet that should be the same measurements for the TWSBI's?

PeppWaves03
May 8th, 2012, 03:39 PM
I got these measurements from Speedy himself:

EF under 0.3mm

F approx. 0.3mm

M approx. 0.5mm

B approx. 0.7mm

KrazyIvan
May 8th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Again, it is also going to be dependant on paper and ink.

Chi Town
May 10th, 2012, 01:42 AM
I am just curious, ok? But what is the deal with people being so intent on wanting to know what the line measurements are for specific pens? Not casting doubt with anyone for what they want to accomplish, Just curious though.

PeppWaves03
May 10th, 2012, 05:47 AM
As for myself: I'm an attorney constantly filling filling out forms and taking notes. Having a nib too thick makes my o's and e's seem like they are one in the same. I have found a .05 mm line is perfect for my printing and style of writing. I have also found extra fine and fine nibs a bit scratchy so I want to get as big of a nib I can and yet get me to .05.

So maybe it's just me but the .02 mm differences in lines makes a huge difference. I understand that pressure, ink, flow all matter but I don't tinker with the pen so all I do is rely on what's out of the box.

inky
May 10th, 2012, 07:37 AM
I find the same thing happens with my handwritting ast PeppWaves03. Unfortuently I seem to like broad nibs the best! I don't do much critical hand writting so it's pretty much just affecting me when I have to read something I wrote a month ago that didn't stick in my memory :) One thing I did notice is that when I use Stub nibs, even some crisp italics, I can still read my writting and the "e" and "o" are still what they should be. Maybe it is just how I hold the pen with those nibs but I was suprised!

KrazyIvan
May 10th, 2012, 10:40 AM
I used to think EF nibs were where it was at. Boy, was I wrong. I gifted my Lamy Vista with 1.1mm nib to my daughter and she is relearning to write more "openly" as I had to.

The Follows
May 10th, 2012, 09:24 PM
I used to think EF nibs were where it was at. Boy, was I wrong. I gifted my Lamy Vista with 1.1mm nib to my daughter and she is relearning to write more "openly" and I had to.

Those larger Lamy nibs slowed me down a lot. Open pretty much nails it too.

PeppWaves03
May 18th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Has anyone compared the lamy 1.1 with the twsbi 1.1?

KrazyIvan
May 18th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Has anyone compared the lamy 1.1 with the twsbi 1.1?

You mean side-by side?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/6790391146_3f3e1ca4f4_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivan_romero/6790391146/)
TWSBI 1.1mm stub vs. Lamy 1.1mm stub (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivan_romero/6790391146/) by IvanRomero (http://www.flickr.com/people/ivan_romero/), on Flickr

PeppWaves03
May 19th, 2012, 05:51 AM
KrazyIvan, any preference between the two for you?

goldiesdad
May 19th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Lamy appears to be thinner maybe a Medium to the other ... Thanks

KrazyIvan
May 19th, 2012, 09:49 AM
I don't have a preference and use them both equally. Well, at least I did. I gifted the vista but I have an Al Star with the same nib. The TWSBI is flexy while the Lamy is a nail. That comparison is not totally fair since they have different inks loaded in them.

dannzeman
May 19th, 2012, 02:55 PM
As for myself: I'm an attorney constantly filling filling out forms and taking notes. Having a nib too thick makes my o's and e's seem like they are one in the same. I have found a .05 mm line is perfect for my printing and style of writing. I have also found extra fine and fine nibs a bit scratchy so I want to get as big of a nib I can and yet get me to .05.

So maybe it's just me but the .02 mm differences in lines makes a huge difference. I understand that pressure, ink, flow all matter but I don't tinker with the pen so all I do is rely on what's out of the box.

If you're relying on a pens performance out of the box, you're gonna have a rough time. Rarely have I ever received a pen with a nib that was the exact size I wanted and as smooth as I wanted and with the right amount of flow.

A much easier way, in my opinion, is to buy the pen you want with a nib size larger than you use. Then, send it to a nib meister with your preferences for width, flow, and what paper and ink you use most often. When you realize that someone like Mike Masuyama can change any pen into anything you want, it'll change the way you look at every pen for the rest of your life.