No Waterman focus group

[Scrawler]

I want to show off my Watermans and there is no Waterman brand focus group. There is Esterbrook, Parker and Whal et al, but no place for my handful of English and Canadian Watermans.

[Paul-H]

Hi

Not only no Waterman section but also no Conwat Stewart one as well, two major players in the pen world and both ignored in the brand focus section.

Paul

[Adrian]

I'm about to sell a gorgeous black 475. Assume it is 1937-1940. I also have a very early Waterman's 1905.


Best,

Adrian.

[Scrawler]

I'm about to sell a gorgeous black 475. Assume it is 1937-1940. I also have a very early Waterman's 1905.


Best,

Adrian.

See that is why one is needed, so that you can post your pics. I for one am curious about both those pens.

[Adrian]

Hi Scrawler,

I would post send pictures but no idea how to upload. My Twitter pseud is prixpics. I have some pics there.

Best,

Adrian.

[Apprenti]

I was wondering why there's no Waterman forum too.

[snedwos]

Is any of you volunteering? A pm to Dan should set the ball rolling.

[Scrawler]

Is any of you volunteering? A pm to Dan should set the ball rolling.
If that is all that is needed then I am on it.

[Scrawler]

I'm about to sell a gorgeous black 475. Assume it is 1937-1940. I also have a very early Waterman's 1905.


Best,

Adrian.

Never saw the 475, but the BCHR Waterman is interesting to me.

[RuiFromUK]

I'm about to sell a gorgeous black 475. Assume it is 1937-1940. I also have a very early Waterman's 1905.


Best,

Adrian.

Never saw the 475, but the BCHR Waterman is interesting to me.

This is what a 475 looks like (First two postings on top of the page):

http://goodwriterspens.com/?s=475

[dannzeman]

I want to show off my Watermans and there is no Waterman brand focus group. There is Esterbrook, Parker and Whal et al, but no place for my handful of English and Canadian Watermans.

There doesn't have to be a specific sub-forum for you to post about that brand. Not every brand will have its own sub-forum. When that's the case, the appropriate place would be the Pens In General forum.

After looking at the number of Waterman threads, it may be beneficial to have its own sub-forum.


Hi

Not only no Waterman section but also no Conwat Stewart one as well, two major players in the pen world and both ignored in the brand focus section.

Paul
They're not being ignored. They just weren't created when the forum was and there hasn't been enough conversation to warrant their creation.

[dannzeman]

The Waterman forum (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/49-Waterman) has been created. I've moved all the Waterman threads I could find. If you see any missed, let me know.

[Scrawler]

The Waterman forum (http://fpgeeks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/49-Waterman) has been created. I've moved all the Waterman threads I could find. If you see any missed, let me know.

Thanks, I shall post in it pronto.

[cwent2]

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:


Thanks Dan!

[Paul-H]

How about the Conway Stewart one as well, I am sure it will be used.

Paul

[Adrian]

Hi all,

Anyone know anything about a stripy Waterman's W5 with gold clip and three gold rings middle wide ? The nib is a unique. Not sure if correct nib but one in pen when I got it.

best,

Adrian.

[Adrian]

Oh, think I have found a link for the W5 http://goodwriterspens.com/2013/01/27/waterman-w5/

My nib is clearly not the right one. Do any of you know how to bend back the clip on these as mine sits up too far? Does it twist off from top or need a screw driver? I would send picture but still don't know hoe to post picture.

Best,

Adrian.

[Scrawler]

Hi all,

Anyone know anything about a stripy Waterman's W5 with gold clip and three gold rings middle wide ? The nib is a unique. Not sure if correct nib but one in pen when I got it.

best,

Adrian.

This is a perfect topic for the new Waterman Brand Focus forum. Start a topic and if you can post pictures.

[Scrawler]

How about the Conway Stewart one as well, I am sure it will be used.

Paul

PM Dan, as I did over the Waterman group. I do not know much about CS, I only have my sister's old black CS school pen, but will try to contribute to get it going.

[Paul-H]

How about the Conway Stewart one as well, I am sure it will be used.

Paul

PM Dan, as I did over the Waterman group. I do not know much about CS, I only have my sister's old black CS school pen, but will try to contribute to get it going.

I have asked, hopefully we will soon see a CS Group as well.

Paul

[Murfie]

I have asked, hopefully we will soon see a CS Group as well.
That would relieve the pressure on FPN from having to delete many of the negative posts about CS's lack of quality control in the manufacture of their product. :eek:

[Paul-H]

I assume from the lack of reply to my PM that the answer is a no :(

Looks like us CS owners will have to battle the gauntlet of what the MOD's will let through on the Dark Side Forum ;)

Is it because its now and always been an English Company, Prejudice against the English, does that make it a Racist Decision :thumb:

Paul

[Murfie]

Is it because its now and always been an English Company, Prejudice against the English, does that make it a Racist Decision
I think the problem is that the company who made the vintage Conway Stewarts has little to do with the company who makes the current Conway Stewarts apart from having the legal rights to the use of the same name. Much has been written about this subject in a number of forums by people who are suitably qualified to give informed comment. This has divided the loyalties of Conway Stewart owners with a great deal of passion. What's my interest in this? Well, I'm just a mug who spent hundreds of dollars on a modern Conway Stewart to find the tines aligned at 45° out of the box and the pen incapable of writing. But then I was told by a CS representative that any pen needs tuning before it is a good writer. Um, bought a new motor vehicle recently and been happy to have a mechanic work it over before you can use it? Enough said ...

[Paul-H]

So true, if my modern Churchill is anything to go by, with the way the poorly designed pressure bar try's to rip the sac off every time it's used, and not to mention the super broad medium nib that has a very bad dose of babies bottom


The original and much better Conway Stewart did make excellent pens for a very long time though, I would have thought their contribution to the world of fountain pens would have been enough, but Sadly not, or so it seems.

Paul

[Scrawler]

Is it because its now and always been an English Company, Prejudice against the English, does that make it a Racist Decision
I think the problem is that the company who made the vintage Conway Stewarts has little to do with the company who makes the current Conway Stewarts apart from having the legal rights to the use of the same name. Much has been written about this subject in a number of forums by people who are suitably qualified to give informed comment. This has divided the loyalties of Conway Stewart owners with a great deal of passion. What's my interest in this? Well, I'm just a mug who spent hundreds of dollars on a modern Conway Stewart to find the tines aligned at 45° out of the box and the pen incapable of writing. But then I was told by a CS representative that any pen needs tuning before it is a good writer. Um, bought a new motor vehicle recently and been happy to have a mechanic work it over before you can use it? Enough said ...

http://fpgeeks.com/forum/showthread.php/6471-Conway-Stewart-Churchill-Fountain-Pen-Review?p=75344&viewfull=1#post75344

[Paul-H]

I will check the clip on mine when I get home tonight as it's not in my EDC case for obvious reason :(

Paul

[Scrawler]

I will check the clip on mine when I get home tonight as it's not in my EDC case for obvious reason :(

Paul

It is such a shame really. I want to be able to support the British economy and recommend their products. There is so much else that is right about these pens and then it is spoiled by failure to attend to those tiny details. I very much doubt that Mary Burke comes to this forum, and no one else has responded to my observation. Maybe this is a one off problem, but I will never know, because of the lack of response to it, and the fact that I will not be buying one, so I will not have first hand experience.

[Paul-H]

Here is the clip on mine

Paul

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/Paul-80/Pens/_DSF5411Copy_zpse4a8656f.jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/Paul-80/media/Pens/_DSF5411Copy_zpse4a8656f.jpg.html)

[Scrawler]

Here is the clip on mine

Paul

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/Paul-80/Pens/_DSF5411Copy_zpse4a8656f.jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/Paul-80/media/Pens/_DSF5411Copy_zpse4a8656f.jpg.html)

Please could I ask you to rotate it a few degrees so that the joint between the clip and the cap is visible. I cannot quite make out if there is a gap between them. However it does not seem to have the glaring curvature to the clip joint as in the example I posted.

[Paul-H]

Hi

Right I tried to photograph my cap from the same angle as yours, hope this one is a bit better.

Paul

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/Paul-80/Pens/_DSF5415_zpsf4f34c8e.jpg (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/Paul-80/media/Pens/_DSF5415_zpsf4f34c8e.jpg.html)

On your picture the clip looks like it is pulling away from the cap is that correct, on mine its a snug fit so no real gap showing, unless we are looking at two different things ;)

[Scrawler]

Yes in the image I posted the top of the clip seems to be pulling away from the cap. In my image the error appears to be in the manufacture of the clip itself, and should have been rejected by quality control.

[Paul-H]

Yes it's not a very good design is it, just two little clips at the bottom of the part of the clip.that sits against the cap. It should have been designed with clips at both ends not just the bottom. I suspect the one on mine would start to work loose if it was well used.

Paul