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Tony Rex
May 14th, 2014, 02:15 AM
Hi Geeks,

A bit of a background of late Kiyoshi Kato, video by VirtuThe3rd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8jFLYwxMjI

I have only recently discovered these nice celluloid pens. Sadly, Mr Kato passed away in 2010 (Requiescat in pace) and stocked items are all sold out. I believe Mr Onishi has the baton now. This thread is for their labor of love. First, I'll do the kick off..

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5567/13996305039_f033fb4f1f_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/14180308782_6f9d28019c_c.jpg

I'll post a coupla more later. Feel free to post yours!

Tony

Jeph
May 14th, 2014, 02:21 AM
Oooh that is nice. C/C?

Tony Rex
May 14th, 2014, 02:26 AM
Yes this one is, but he made piston fillers as well although rare. Mostly c/c and steel nib but all celluloid.. he made pens for Visconti too.

purplepencils
May 14th, 2014, 02:50 AM
I have a grey marble one from the turn of the century on its way to me. Pretty excited as it will be my first (!) celluloid pen.

RuiFromUK
May 14th, 2014, 02:52 AM
That is a beautifully crafted pen and very elegant.

Tony Rex
May 20th, 2014, 05:16 AM
Image posting/deleting test.. Disregard pls

Tony Rex
May 22nd, 2014, 12:37 AM
Some more pics. This one is model 580F(I think..)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14239399651_d3c43ba7a1_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2925/14056062439_6f65faecb6_c.jpg

RayCornett
May 23rd, 2014, 02:16 PM
I was given a pen and have thought it may be one of his but can not identify it for sure. It also has a cheaper nib that was gold plated and just says Special Iridium Pen. However I have heard he used those nibs at one time.
It is definitely hand made. You can see where the machinery did the threading on the inside of the cap and just inside the cap is a wide gold band. But one of the things that make me think it is not one of his is that the top is not screwed on. There is a simple plastic threaded top that screws into the cap to over top of the cap clip.

I do see that my clip matches the others here. You may also be able to see a white residue on the section threads. I do recall seeing a video where he used such a sealant.

EDIT- After watching the video for the umteenth time in the last few months I see that the cap ends he placed on the pens in this video did not involve screws. He simply threaded the cap end to screw into the cap top......hmm maybe I have a Kato..........

My question is, if it is a cartridge pen what cartridge fits it? The tube coming out of the back of the section is 1/8th inch wide. That would mean a cartridge with a BIG opening. Are there converters that would fit?

I had been using it as an eyedropper for the last month or so since it was given to me and last night it developed a sudden long crack in the section and leaked all over. The crack was not there the day before. Hopefully I can get a replacement.

Tony Rex
May 23rd, 2014, 02:47 PM
That's a nice pen mate. Are you trying to identify it? If I may take a jab, I reckon it's an Onishi Works. Cap threading or brass nut in the cap isn't definitive, some have some don't. I've seen one like yours on rakuten with the same tortoise barrel. It wasn't cheap.

Edit: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/horiman/item/2012-0202-1/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en No it's different, just same material but different model. I have got another one that's similar in shape with yours but in different colour. I'll post it later.

Thanks for posting yours, Ray. Lovely pen.

RayCornett
May 23rd, 2014, 03:25 PM
That's a nice pen mate. Are you trying to identify it? If I may take a jab, I reckon it's an Onishi Works. Cap threading or brass nut in the cap isn't definitive, some have some don't. I've seen one like yours on rakuten with the same tortoise barrel. It wasn't cheap.

Edit: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/horiman/item/2012-0202-1/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en No it's different, just same material but different model. I have got another one that's similar in shape with yours but in different colour. I'll post it later.

Thanks for posting yours, Ray. Lovely pen.

You're welcome and thanks. I do like it a lot. I never cared for the look of tortoise shell until it was in my hands. A friend who I restored some pens for found it in a second hand store! She gave it to me as part of the payment for restoring her pens.

I am just trying to find out if it is one of his or not. All the evidence seems to point to yes. My initial issue until now was the cap jewel. I had thought he always used screws from the inside to attach it. But in the video he uses threaded cap jewels. I would like to know which cartridge to use as well as which converter.

In this pic you can see how you can view right through the cap jewel through the cap

Tony Rex
May 26th, 2014, 08:00 AM
I am just trying to find out if it is one of his or not. All the evidence seems to point to yes. My initial issue until now was the cap jewel. I had thought he always used screws from the inside to attach it. But in the video he uses threaded cap jewels. I would like to know which cartridge to use as well as which converter.

The thing is, to my knowledge all Katos have opaque finial and opaque end barrel 'jewel', and all are international cart/converter compatible. Plus the different double cap rings. I now doubt yours is a Kato or Onishi/Pent. Perhaps it's Chinese? Wingsung? Sorry I can't really help more.

Back to regular programming soon.. (Moar pics)

RayCornett
May 26th, 2014, 10:02 AM
Ok, Thanks. I have seen some of his tortoise shell pens that are translucent and you can see the threading from the outside. You can see it here in an old listing for one of his pens.

http://estilofilos.blogspot.com/2014_02_01_archive.html

-Edit- I now see this is an Onishi pen but I believe he used left over Kato parts.

Tony Rex
May 27th, 2014, 05:25 AM
This is one is model 680.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3687/14080133460_9be1e645bf_c.jpg

This pen is rather short and light, around Pelikan M300 short. Smooth fine nib. QUINK BB.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2928/14080091788_99120ecb60_c.jpg

purplepencils
May 30th, 2014, 06:37 AM
my particular specimen:

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s667/daintydimsum/IMG_1291_zps2da5cf60.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/daintydimsum/media/IMG_1291_zps2da5cf60.jpg.html)

circa early 2000s according to the seller.

Tarbyonline
August 13th, 2017, 07:58 PM
my particular specimen:

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s667/daintydimsum/IMG_1291_zps2da5cf60.jpg (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/daintydimsum/media/IMG_1291_zps2da5cf60.jpg.html)

circa early 2000s according to the seller.

Here it is (well some like it) being made!

https://youtu.be/SByOoh2XK6c

RayCornett
May 11th, 2018, 01:54 PM
I am just trying to find out if it is one of his or not. All the evidence seems to point to yes. My initial issue until now was the cap jewel. I had thought he always used screws from the inside to attach it. But in the video he uses threaded cap jewels. I would like to know which cartridge to use as well as which converter.

The thing is, to my knowledge all Katos have opaque finial and opaque end barrel 'jewel', and all are international cart/converter compatible. Plus the different double cap rings. I now doubt yours is a Kato or Onishi/Pent. Perhaps it's Chinese? Wingsung? Sorry I can't really help more.

Back to regular programming soon.. (Moar pics)

Bringing back an old thread here :)
I was bored and happened to see the pen again for the first time in a while and did some browsing again. I did see some Onishi pens today where he used the same material on the finial as the cap and barrel. I just wish I could find away to contact him assuming he is still around.

penwash
May 11th, 2018, 09:37 PM
They still sell pens, here's one of their listing on Rakuten if you haven't seen it yet: https://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/penroom/global/en/pent/onishi.html

aaronp
May 14th, 2018, 01:55 AM
Wow, this is the first time I have heard of them. Some of these pens are simply gorgeous. I really like the model 680. Does any know whether it is still for sale?