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david i
September 4th, 2014, 03:02 PM
Watching some recent posts here, I gather that Carmine (Pearlescent red-stripe-on-black) Sheaffer Celluloid has its followers.


Here's some eye candy I'd offered at FPB a couple years ago. Late 1930's Sheaffer Balance. Pens from my own collection, only one a conventional, catalogued USA-model, an oversized pen. All the others are even more interesting.


http://vacumania.com/penteech2/sheaffer_carminespreadA1200.jpg

regards

David

dannzeman
September 4th, 2014, 04:41 PM
Lovely set, David. Thanks for sharing.

Is the one second from the right, with the chrome trim, Sheaffer branded? I only ask because the clip doesn't look familiar.

sloegin
September 4th, 2014, 04:54 PM
It's most likely Canadian. Wasp pens, a Sheaffer sub brand, have a similarly shaped clip.
Here is one with gold color trim not in David's picture.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sloegin/P1020953-crop_zpsc5e6dafb.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/sloegin/media/P1020953-crop_zpsc5e6dafb.jpg.html)

sloegin
September 4th, 2014, 05:11 PM
Reading material:
1 (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2606-most-interesting-sheaffer-oversized-balance/)
2 (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2144-a-sheaffery-wasp-or-a-waspy-sheaffer/?hl=wasp)
3 (http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1459-whats-this-model-canadian-sheaffer-in-wasp-shape/?hl=wasp)

tarheel1
September 4th, 2014, 05:32 PM
Man i really want an oversized version.

david i
September 4th, 2014, 08:07 PM
I might soon have a spare gem OS Carmine but with the up-feature lined "Jeweler's Cap-band. Not inexpensive I fear.

regards

d

david i
September 4th, 2014, 08:11 PM
Lovely set, David. Thanks for sharing.

Is the one second from the right, with the chrome trim, Sheaffer branded? I only ask because the clip doesn't look familiar.

Hi Dan,

Others here pretty well have provided answer-- nice to see-- though one of the referenced FPB pages likely has couple errors in my own commentary. Really must fix someday.

The clip is a style seen on some Sheaffer sub-brand WASP pens in the USA during the 1930's. Did leftovers make the trip to Canada? Were they used for different market niche? Don't know, though they clearly appear often enough on Canadian pens to indicate regular usage in some capacity.

That the OS in Black shown in the link provided by sloegin, showing bit of different color to clip and cap-ring might even make sense in this context, with the native cap-band well gold-filled, but the clip, if originally made for a lower-lilne WASP, perhaps using cheaper plating.

I'm not even sure sloegins red set shown in pic above started out with yellow trim. I've seen some standard girth pens with brsasing to clip but with hint of white metal here and there, chrome plating perhaps that has gone bye-bye? Again, I cannot insist. I'd have to pull some samples but I believe I've seen pens with well brassed clips but with mostly intact cap-rings, supporting the hypthesis that the clips started out with weaker gold meant for lower line pens.

Canadian Balances offer a special set of challenges, no doubt.

regards

d

mhosea
September 4th, 2014, 10:02 PM
Not inexpensive I fear.

Somehow I think the fear is all mine.

KBeezie
September 5th, 2014, 04:10 PM
:P here's my carmine (eventually figured it to be a MiLady Balance, like a petite configuration of the admiral balance)

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/carminebalance/uncapped.jpg

By the way what's the silver clip style second from the right in the original picture? (or better yet that model name) *edit* I just had to read down a couple posts.