Re: Which pens don’t count?
Isn't that just a distinction between how many pens and how many types of pen?
Re: Which pens don’t count?
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Empty_of_Clouds
Isn't that just a distinction between how many pens and how many types of pen?
Now I get to say I don't understand. :)
I mean which fountain pens don't get counted for whatever reason — e.g. I used to exclude arbitrarily defined 'duplicates', Wuddus seems not to count unused pens.
Yes, I count other types of pens separately, but that's another question.
Re: Which pens don’t count?
:)
My point could easily apply within just fountain pens. So, as you noted yourself, are you counting fountain pens or types (models, colours, other groupings) of fountain pens. I think that's basically what you are alluding to in the first post, but I may be mistaken (and often have been!).
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Yup, counting individual pens. It's basically one of each model, so grouping doesn't really make sense. But I wondered if others count differently when considering where they're at.
Re: Which pens don’t count?
I've often mentioned how I don't count the cheapies (Platinum Preppies, Pilot Kakunos, and the like).
And then I have Users and Mementos (and some pens travel back and forth between these categories). And then there are those I intend to sell. I count only the Users and Mementos, and the current total is fewer than 40.
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ethernautrix
I've often mentioned how I don't count the cheapies (Platinum Preppies, Pilot Kakunos, and the like).
And then I have Users and Mementos (and some pens travel back and forth between these categories). And then there are those I intend to sell. I count only the Users and Mementos, and the current total is fewer than 40.
I don't count the always-loaded Preppies and Petits either. Which is a relief!
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I don't count the ones that are in the repair / parts box. I have some cheapies coming which I will count if they write properly. Edit: and I'm planning to gift them to potential converts :)
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I don't count the small pile of cheapie Chinese give-away pens, or the "to be repaired" box.
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I don't count the cheapies. I don't count the spares. I don't count the box of 20 Rotring Artpen spare sections and I don't even count the Artpens, except for the Limited Edition versions. I don't count ballpoints or rollers (except the Carene and Jean Pierre Lepine), I don't count Pilot Parallels or marker pens. I don't count the Indian and Chinese cheapies (Wing Sun, Camay, Scout) for playing at nib grinds on.
I count everything else, if I can find it :-)
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Ah easy answer for me: I don't count pen parts,
or parts of a pen,
or parts that may someday become a pen,
or parts that probably won't become a pen, but I just keep it because I think it's neat :D
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I don't count my pens at all, but if the madness should come upon me there are a lot of excellent examples of how not to count a fair number of them here. :D
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I have a list of my fountain pens, but it's not a numbered list. It does have prices, and a total at the bottom, as well as a column for country of origin. As far as I know, they're all in there, including broken ones that have never been fixed. Well, maybe not the Pilot Varsities, or the BIC disposable fountain pens that I recall once having.
Come to think of it, since it's a Numbers spreadsheet, it could become a numbered list with a click or two to display the row numbers. Subtract a row for the headers, and there you go. Wow.
Since dip pens are kind of related, at least in my mind, I may as well mention that I have no list of dip pens or their holders. Nor any other writing instruments.
One area where certain pens don't count (in my mind) is with inked pens. The Varsities don't count there, and although I've refilled a couple in the past, it's likely that I won't bother again. And I don't count the one Esterbrook Dip-Less that is still inked. So right now, I have ink in five pens. That count.
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It depends on what I’m counting. If we’re talking about the number of pens I own, then yes, everything gets counted. If, however, we’re talking about my prohibition on new acquisitions, then anything under $20 “doesn’t count”.[emoji6]
Actually, I need to amend that first statement. I recently bought a couple dozen Varsities to give to coworkers as stocking stuffers and I’ve got a few left over. I don’t/won’t count those.
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I guess there's only one I ever say that with, it does get used, but when stating what I have, I almost always leave out the Platinum Preppy 05 that sits on my desk, eye dropper filled with Noodler's Kung Te-Cheng.
Dunno why, I just don't really feel like it's something I include really for the regular rotation.
Re: Which pens don’t count?
As I appear to have inspired this thread, I guess I've already answered. :D
If I take every single pen I own, for the sake of this thread, it can be broken down as follows:
Regular use fountain pens (3)
Duplicates of the regular use pens (5 +3 +0, respectively)
Pens I got along the way but don't use anymore (4? Not sure)
Dip pen (1)
Pens that don't use bottled ink (dozens, not gonna count 'em)
The answer given, then depends on the question asked...
Q: Do you use fountain pens, Wuddus? How many?
A: Three
Q: How many do you own?
A: Seven or eight, not counting a few spares in a drawer
Q: Why so many, why not get rid of some?
A: They're not worth selling, I'm not going to throw away something that works, and posting them on to someone would cost more in postage than the pen is worth. Want one?
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Where I have trouble counting my fountain pens is when I look at my Osmiroid and my Platinum calligraphy pens. Each has one barrel, one cap and four nibs, each with its own section. So is each one one pen or four? Or some number in between? Each set makes four different pens, but one at a time. It seems to me, off the top of my head, that my Osmiroid set should somehow count numerically higher than, say, my Esterbrook or my Sailor, but I'm not sure of that, or how too figure it out. I suppose I could say that an assembled Osmiroid calligraphy fountain pen would have four parts: the cap, the nib section, the converter, and the barrel. I have two converters for the Osmiroid, so if each part is a fourth of a fountain pen, I have 1/4 (the cap) + 4/4 (the nib sections) + 2/4 (the converters) +1/4 (the barrel) = 8/4 = 2 fountain pens.
Still doesn't seem right, though.
Oh well..
Re: Which pens don’t count?
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calamus
Where I have trouble counting my fountain pens is when I look at my Osmiroid and my Platinum calligraphy pens. Each has one barrel, one cap and four nibs, each with its own section. So is each one one pen or four? Or some number in between? Each set makes four different pens, but one at a time. It seems to me, off the top of my head, that my Osmiroid set should somehow count numerically higher than, say, my Esterbrook or my Sailor, but I'm not sure of that, or how too figure it out. I suppose I could say that an assembled Osmiroid calligraphy fountain pen would have four parts: the cap, the nib section, the converter, and the barrel. I have two converters for the Osmiroid, so if each part is a fourth of a fountain pen, I have 1/4 (the cap) + 4/4 (the nib sections) + 2/4 (the converters) +1/4 (the barrel) = 8/4 = 2 fountain pens.
Still doesn't seem right, though.
Oh well..
My head just kerploded. ;)
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I wouldn't typically count the Jinhao/Hero/Baoer pens I've never inked. (I count the ones that have been). I don't count to-be-repaired or for parts, unless I'm doing so explicitly.
If I give a number I've probably forgotten about at least five pens that are lurking somewhere. I might also forget about the Osmiroids as they live in a different box. (For Osmiroids I count the pen bodies not the nibs - I have extra nibs for some other pens too).
I may or may not count pens that are in transit...
Re: Which pens don’t count?
No cheapie pens.
No disposables.
No inherited pens or the like.
No pens that aren't "real" pens. I don't know what constitutes a "real pen", but I know it when I see it.