Visconti's non-conventional pen construction

[mhosea]

Which reinforces my point about preferences rather nicely. :-)

I don't prefer them.

[tandaina]

Partly for me the issue with these captive converters sold as a piston filler is that Visconti is changing a premium for them as if they were something other than a C/C. I have no issue with converters but dang it don't pretend it is something else and charge me extram

[Laura N]

Partly for me the issue with these captive converters sold as a piston filler is that Visconti is changing a premium for them as if they were something other than a C/C. I have no issue with converters but dang it don't pretend it is something else and charge me extram

Yeah I sure get that.

[ChrisC]

It's really stupid for a Homo Sapiens's (steel version) barrel to not be able to be removed like on a regular C/C pen. I just can't fathom why Visconti does that.
I like the Opera/Wall Street series dearly, though, so don't misunderstand this as hating on Visconti.

The captured converter doesn't help anybody. Non-aficionados likely don't care if a pen is C/C or piston filled. Aficionados like us on this forum see right through it. What's the point?

[KBeezie]

I wonder if I should worry any about my Divina Desert Springs Limited Edition (which uses a vac "pull and push" filler, and not the power fillers like the non-LE version), especially since I have the ink window with a little silver ring with windows thru that but it doesn't seem like there's much going on between the ink window and the section like maybe a few milimeters worth of bonding.







That little ring moves every time I uncap or cap the pen, ie: rotates pretty freely (just not loose enough to do it on it's own just when the cap pushes against it when capping/etc).

[youstruckgold]

I wonder if I should worry any about my Divina Desert Springs Limited Edition (which uses a vac "pull and push" filler, and not the power fillers like the non-LE version), especially since I have the ink window with a little silver ring with windows thru that but it doesn't seem like there's much going on between the ink window and the section like maybe a few milimeters worth of bonding.







That little ring moves every time I uncap or cap the pen, ie: rotates pretty freely (just not loose enough to do it on it's own just when the cap pushes against it when capping/etc).

Seriously Karl, you don't REALLY have a problem... you just wanted to show us what a beautiful pen it is and how great it looks in your fabulous photographs!

[penstaking]

Happily, I am coming to this thread quite late. What was the original post about? An 'aficionado' (that must leave me out as I am only a collector and possess a certain expertise only in regard to Italian stilographic pens) has complained about recent Visconti captive converter fillers. Unlike millions of people around the world, then, you are dissatisfied with this system which Visconti apparently uses; hence it's a non-issue, i.e., don't buy them. I have six Visconti (miniscule number compared to many) with various filling systems; they have all served me well for between 10 and 25 years. And I own a Montegrappa Extra that is almost 20 years old which uses the captive system and I expect to enjoy it problem free for another 20 before bequeathing it (probably) to a non-aficionado.

[ChrisC]

I stick with Visconti's C/C fillers.

I really like Visconti's aesthetics, such as their beautiful materials and faceted Opera series, but I think their mechanical prowess leaves much to be desired. So, I stick with C/C pens, where all the mechanics (nib, feed, and converter) are produced by more mechanically able companies.

[KBeezie]

Seriously Karl, you don't REALLY have a problem... you just wanted to show us what a beautiful pen it is and how great it looks in your fabulous photographs!

Well the issues/annoyances (including flow/nib, filling) were annoying enough that I no longer own it and have sold it several months back at a slight loss. Found the construction/feel/quality/filling/nib of the Aurora Afrika LE to be much better.

True the Viscontis are beautiful, but that doesn't do me much good if they keep annoying me.

[Bogon07]

Seriously Karl, you don't REALLY have a problem... you just wanted to show us what a beautiful pen it is and how great it looks in your fabulous photographs!

Well the issues/annoyances (including flow/nib, filling) were annoying enough that I no longer own it and have sold it several months back at a slight loss. Found the construction/feel/quality/filling/nib of the Aurora Afrika LE to be much better.

True the Viscontis are beautiful, but that doesn't do me much good if they keep annoying me.

That is a bit sad to hear but there is no point keeping an expensive pen if it aggravates you whenever you use it.

I recently purchased a regular Desert Springs with the bizarre push/pull turn captive converter filling system and was at first a little disappointed with the performance and use of that and the Palladium nib but it has improved overtime. The material is absolutely stunning in real life and the feel of the pentagonal spiral twist of the barrel is unique.

[Llewellyn]

Seriously Karl, you don't REALLY have a problem... you just wanted to show us what a beautiful pen it is and how great it looks in your fabulous photographs!

Well the issues/annoyances (including flow/nib, filling) were annoying enough that I no longer own it and have sold it several months back at a slight loss. Found the construction/feel/quality/filling/nib of the Aurora Afrika LE to be much better.

True the Viscontis are beautiful, but that doesn't do me much good if they keep annoying me.

That is a bit sad to hear but there is no point keeping an expensive pen if it aggravates you whenever you use it.

I recently purchased a regular Desert Springs with the bizarre push/pull turn captive converter filling system and was at first a little disappointed with the performance and use of that and the Palladium nib but it has improved overtime. The material is absolutely stunning in real life and the feel of the pentagonal spiral twist of the barrel is unique.

I also have a regular Desert Springs and think it's a great pen. To address the specific topic of this thread maybe I'm just easily pleased or not discriminating enough but I don't understand all the angst about whether a pen uses a converter, captured converter or piston, a sacs or whatever. To me as long as a pen fills reliably and can be cleaned it doesn't bother me what method the manufacturer uses for filling it.

I'm an unashamed Visconti fan - they make lovely and different pens. I'd rather have the worst Visconti than the best Montblanc