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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

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    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

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    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

    I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

    It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

    Best of luck

    Cob
    You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

    Cheers,

    Bud.

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

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    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.
    Yeah, same here, but for weddings etc., it would be nice to wear a 'real' bow tie.

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    Wow, this thread has changed direction. It's now 'Formal fashion for men' thread.

    Cheers,

    Bud.

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

    I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

    It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

    Best of luck

    Cob
    You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
    You should try to be in London the first Saturday of the month, then you could come to the London meeting and bow-tie tuition would make an excellent photo opportunity!

    Cob

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    Wow, this thread has changed direction. It's now 'Formal fashion for men' thread.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
    LOL - When you consider the rather flimsy premise on which this was started, there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe what this forum needs is a "What colour pen do you choose to match your kilt" thread.

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    Wow, this thread has changed direction. It's now 'Formal fashion for men' thread.

    Cheers,

    Bud.

    I haven't seen a snap of Eric in the formal attire that prompted the ire of the original poster.

    When I responded to that post and rather pinched the thread, I had in mind not only morning dress, white-tie, dinner-jacket/tuxedo etc. but clothes that I think of as everyday but which in today's world would be seen as perhaps a little "dressy."

    I suppose I am just an old fogey, but then I could always write with a 'Biro' or felt-tip couldn't I!

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    Default Re: What's with flamboyant Eric, The-Smooth-Talker

    Scrawler: a splendid photo and a great turn-out.

    Yes that is the jacket I had in mind - and that's a splendid tartan I must say.

    C.

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    Wow, this thread has changed direction. It's now 'Formal fashion for men' thread.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
    LOL - When you consider the rather flimsy premise on which this was started, there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe what this forum needs is a "What colour pen do you choose to match your kilt" thread.
    Aw Scrawler, that actually made me laugh out loud. Classic.

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

    I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

    It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

    Best of luck

    Cob
    You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
    You should try to be in London the first Saturday of the month, then you could come to the London meeting and bow-tie tuition would make an excellent photo opportunity!

    Cob
    That would be good, where do you guys meet, I'd love to meet you and the geeks. It's because of you and Migo, I'm a Mabie Todd fanatic, the 300B I got is now my favourite pen.

    Cheers,

    Bud (nearly typed my real name there!).

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob
    Yes, the Price Charlie jacket is formal evening wear. For everyday wear a nice wool sweater, or a tweed jacket is more appropriate. (Obviously when it gets hot the sweater and jacket can be jettisoned and just a nice shirt worn.) Kilts go with everything. I've admired them on dudes with Metallica t-shirts, polos, formal wear, etc. Ladies like a well worn kilt! (To be properly fitted your kilt should filrt with the TOPS of your kneecaps. The whole kneecap should be exposed for the ladies to admire.)
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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob
    This gentleman is how you do formal! I so wish I could convince my Welsh husband to wear a kilt.
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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

    I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

    It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

    Best of luck

    Cob
    You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
    You should try to be in London the first Saturday of the month, then you could come to the London meeting and bow-tie tuition would make an excellent photo opportunity!

    Cob
    That would be good, where do you guys meet, I'd love to meet you and the geeks. It's because of you and Migo, I'm a Mabie Todd fanatic, the 300B I got is now my favourite pen.

    Cheers,

    Bud (nearly typed my real name there!).
    We meet at a German Bar, The Bierschenke, it's in the City: 4 London Wall Buildings, Blomfield Street, London. EC2M 5NT 12:00 sharp! There is a thread in the Geek gatherings section.

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    This gentleman is how you do formal! I so wish I could convince my Welsh husband to wear a kilt.
    And this gentleman is how you go to the pub.

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    This gentleman is how you do formal! I so wish I could convince my Welsh husband to wear a kilt.
    And this gentleman is how you go to the pub.
    Quite so and very smart.

    Were I to visit Scotland, want to try a pint or two of 'heavy gravity', I would have to eschew the kilt - no Scottish blood at all I'm afraid.

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob
    This gentleman is how you do formal! I so wish I could convince my Welsh husband to wear a kilt.
    Really depends on how the kilt fits when kneeling as to the proper length, also front to back length matters MOST to kilt makers, my MIL is a kilt maker and that is the MOST important factor. Many kilts look good front on, but not from all sides. We have to be factual, when we're talking Scottish!

    Cheers,

    Bud.

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    Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

    I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

    On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

    Cob
    I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.
    The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

    Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

    They are so elegant!

    Cob
    Checked with the MIL, Scrawlers is actually too high at the back, and slightly too long at the front. Top of the knee is proper length, bottom of knee for socks when kneeling down. Or so she says, as long as it looks good is what I think.

    Cheers,

    Bud.
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    Default Re: What's with flamboyant Eric, The-Smooth-Talker

    Can I ask, what on the surface is a racist question, but when I get down to it it's something I'd really like to know. Personal develop, I suppose. It is In do way meant to be racist in any way, but something I've always been interested in.

    I won't ask if the consensus is not to..

    Cheers,

    Bud.

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