What's with flamboyant Eric, The-Smooth-Talker

[k3eax]

Why has there been no communication from this guy who owns the site? First the podcasts are discontinued and then pen review portion is eliminated.

He has, with his well practiced and contrived speech manner along with the wearing of formal cloths at pen shows, given me the creeps.

Odds are that he soon boots me out of the Geeks because of what I've written.

[Cob]

I know nothing of Eric, but why the objection to formal clothes?

I think formality in dress is a courtesy to those whom one is going to meet.

Perhaps that is why I like vintage fountain pens!

Cob

[kaisnowbird]

Not sure 'contrived' is called for, and so far Eric hasn't booted any genuine FP community members out of this forum, has he?

[jar]

Why has there been no communication from this guy who owns the site? First the podcasts are discontinued and then pen review portion is eliminated.

He has, with his well practiced and contrived speech manner along with the wearing of formal cloths at pen shows, given me the creeps.

Odds are that he soon boots me out of the Geeks because of what I've written.

Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell.

Very interesting first post. Perhaps Eric did not know you were awaiting an audience.

[Chrissy]

Why has there been no communication from this guy who owns the site? First the podcasts are discontinued and then pen review portion is eliminated.

He has, with his well practiced and contrived speech manner along with the wearing of formal cloths at pen shows, given me the creeps.

Odds are that he soon boots me out of the Geeks because of what I've written.

Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell.

Very interesting first post. Perhaps Eric did not know you were awaiting an audience.

That's a very interesting reply.

[Crazyorange]

I get the impression the site is being neglected. I feel Eric has no idea what to do with us or what was taken down.

Never met the man, so I can't speak about him. But his actions have left an impression on me. All that drama for what?

[Flounder]

Site management controversies (which have soured me on the FPG kool-aid abit) aside, I'm mildly surprised by what creeps you out, k3eax. Flamboyance, evening dress, affected speech... Fairly innocuous?

[Tracy Lee]

Why has there been no communication from this guy who owns the site? First the podcasts are discontinued and then pen review portion is eliminated.

He has, with his well practiced and contrived speech manner along with the wearing of formal cloths at pen shows, given me the creeps.

Odds are that he soon boots me out of the Geeks because of what I've written.

He did get married at the LA Pen show this year. I'd have to check but I am pretty sure it is okay to wear a tux when that happens.

[Jon Szanto]

As regular readers here can attest, I'm not a shrinking violet when it comes to confronting some of the management issues here at FPG over the last few months. That said, what's with the flamboyant first post? Is this an axe grinding session, or a sincere request for info?

BTW, as someone who has to wear 3 differing sets of formal wear for my work, don't knock it. In the right circumstances, a tuxedo or tails is the perfect weapon.

[Cob]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

[Uncle Bud]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

[Cob]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

Best of luck

Cob

[Uncle Bud]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

Best of luck

Cob

You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

Cheers,

Bud.

[Cob]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

I have always admired the formal jacket worn with the kilt - very stylish.

It's a shame that Berkshire is a long way from East Lothian; I'd be delighted to help - especially a fellow Mabie Todd enthusiast!

Best of luck

Cob

You never know Cob, I'm down south with work on a fairly regular basis.

Cheers,

Bud.

You should try to be in London the first Saturday of the month, then you could come to the London meeting and bow-tie tuition would make an excellent photo opportunity!

Cob

[Jon Szanto]

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

True story:

Over 30 years ago, before my wife and I were long-married, I went off for a week of music study. It was a summer workshop with the timpanist of the Cleveland Orchestra, Mr. Cloyd Duff. Beyond being a consummate musician, he was a gentleman of the highest order, and brought a casual dignity to all he did. As he had for years, even in the warm summer days in Ft. Collins, CO, Mr. Duff would show up at every class with a dress shirt and bow tie, the latter of which had been his signature for many years.

I returned home, inspired by both his musicianship as well as the class with which he lived his life. I would learn to tie a bow tie! As luck would have it, as I flew home, my wife was off for a week at a different music festival, so I had a week by myself. I went down to the public library and found a men's style book from the middle of last century; a "how to be a well-groomed guy" kind of thing. It had a diagram showing how to tie a bow tie. I took my one bow tie that I had, and stood in front of a mirror for over an hour, trying to figure out how those line drawings translated into semi-strangulation by striped cloth. I eventually got it.

Next day it took me about five minutes. Within no time at all, and to this day, I got to the point where I tie a bow tie without looking in the mirror in about 30 seconds.

It can be done.

[Scrawler]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

[Cob]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

They are so elegant!

Cob

[Scrawler]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

They are so elegant!

Cob

[tandaina]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

Is the "Prince Charlie" jacket the one I have admired for so long - the Scottish form of formal evening wear?

They are so elegant!

Cob

Yes, the Price Charlie jacket is formal evening wear. For everyday wear a nice wool sweater, or a tweed jacket is more appropriate. (Obviously when it gets hot the sweater and jacket can be jettisoned and just a nice shirt worn.) Kilts go with everything. I've admired them on dudes with Metallica t-shirts, polos, formal wear, etc. Ladies like a well worn kilt! (To be properly fitted your kilt should filrt with the TOPS of your kneecaps. The whole kneecap should be exposed for the ladies to admire.)

[Uncle Bud]

Mention has been made hereabouts of a "tux" which as an Englishman I take to be shorthand for "black tie" or "dinner jacket" - "Le Smoking" for the French.

I should make it clear that "formal dress" is fine by me - but only if there is no made-up bow-tie.

On the occasion of his twenty-first birthday, an aristocratic - or at least upper middle-class - young man was addressed thus by his father: "My son I have only two pieces of advice for you: first, always pay your tradesmen and second, never wear a made-up bow-tie."

Cob

I'd love to know how to tie a bow tie, I wear one with my kilt, but can never manage to tie one myself.

The only time I wear a bow tie with my kilt is if I am also wearing my Prince Charlie jacket. On all other occasions I wear either a red or green wool tie that matches my flashes.

Yeah, same here, but for weddings etc., it would be nice to wear a 'real' bow tie.