Sticker Residue on Pilot Custom 823 Cap

[Special K]

Thanx

[tandaina]

I love it. I filled it with Pelikan Edelstein Amber and it just wasn't writing well. I don't know why. I emptied it, did some Goulet pen flush, used a little piece of acetate between the tines, and filled with Iroshizuku Tsukushi. Flow is great and the pen writes smoothly. I don't know if the pen just didn't like Amber ink or if there was silicone residue that cleaning fixed, but it's working perfectly now.

Those Pelikan inks just don't flow well in everything I'm finding. I prefer them in European pens, which maybe makes sense?

[Special K]

Thanx

[Jon Szanto]

You make no sense. I could care less about your inability to afford an 823. How does that make me failing, already? "Being direct with me?" Huh, you don't like people to stand up to you. It makes you look bad. I could care less if some one thinks I'm ignorant or not. On the other hand, it's very important to you that others see you as brilliant, thoughtful, with a large grasp of English diction. Jon, you are so sad, you would even try to impress a drunkard with your brilliance. You didn't have any comments specific to this pen. You only jumped in to impress others with your wit. You're the one who needs some self reflection. Speaking of behavior, nothing in your post rises above my behavior. I'm just a simpleton but you're going crazy trying to put me in my place. You've even resorted to counting my posts, looking for some "he said, she said" And in all honesty, it's your behavior that has been amongst the worst. I don't need to plead my case; I'm right. Oh yeah, thanx for solving the problem

Hey, Einstein, you're making up stuff by the second sentence.

[Special K]

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[Special K]

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[Special K]

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[reprieve]

Reprieve, Laura N. I bet you think I was being cruel towards mhosea. I wasn't trying to plead any case with him. I wasn't even talking to him. He just couldn't let it go. "I'll cross him up with this question. I'll redeem myself and put Special K in his place, once and for all". mhosea, you're not as smart as I am. Don't do that anymore. I can take the wrong side of an issue and beat you. You're just that dumb. I guess some of you think I'm using excessive force. Just remember, he started it.
THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED

I hesitate to post this because I now understand that engaging with you is futile.

That said, however, I have to say that you're missing the point.

You have a negative attitude. You continually lash out at others. It isn't about who is "right" and who is "wrong." People here are (were) willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you aren't (weren't) willing to extend them that same courtesy. I don't know why you feel so persecuted; I'm very sorry that you do, and I truly hate that you think people are constantly attacking you somehow. But when you respond to an open inquiry by belittling, insulting, and blatantly taunting other members, well, I'm just not sure how you can expect anything other than hostility toward your posts--especially when you end them with incendiary declarations such as "THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED."

That kind of behavior just does not foster trust or good will.

[mhosea]

Sorry. I didn't mean to keep you waiting, but I had other things to do.

The reason I asked is because you are so adamant about being "right", that I thought it would be helpful to everyone else to clarify exactly what you think you're "right" about, and for the benefit of people who come along and read this thread later, I wanted it to make it more clear why the standard advice you will get from pen experts is to keep alcohol away from your pens, despite that some of them can take it. The problem is that it's hard to know before hand whether the pen in your hand is the one kind or the other without actually trying alcohol on it.

Visconti and other pen makers sometimes use celluloid for its beauty. Unfortunately, celluloid will be damaged by exposure to alcohol. Here is celluloid before exposure to a mere swipe of denatured alcohol on a Q-tip.

CelluloidBefore.jpg

And here is the same celluloid after.

CelluloidAfter.jpg

I didn't "research" this. These are my photos, taken with my microscope. Even when the plastic is acrylic or some such, I'm not sure I would counsel the use of alcohol on it. I thought the grip section of my Sailor King of Pen was made of PMMA, and I gave it a wipe with alcohol at some point. But it frosted over a bit. Fortunately it was superficial and easily polished out. This poor guy seems to have had a worse experience with alcohol on a modern Sailor pen, supposedly PMMA. It's just hard to know what's going to happen when you put alcohol on a pen. That's where the generic advice to avoid alcohol comes from. It's not personal. It's just good advice to help keep people from damaging their pens accidentally.

[Special K]

Thanx

[elaineb]

Oy veh. I just stumbled onto this thread. I read it through the end because the information was good. (Mike, those photos were really informative.) But man, the signal-to-noise ratio was pretty abysmal. SpecialK, I know you're reading this even though for some reason, you decided to pretend that you can be a moderator and lock threads. Surely we can't be the first people to tell you that your short temper is a problem.

There's nothing wrong with feeling angry in itself. But what you do with that anger, how you behave when influenced by it, is one of the truest measures of integrity. If you broadcast blatant aggression toward anyone whom you feel has offended you, especially if the response is out of proportion to the original discussion -- all you're doing is undermining your credibility. You're not persuading anyone you're right. In fact, your actions sabotage whatever truth might found in your words, because all people can see are the insults.

[RudyR]

Well Special K just earned my distinguished person to never trust award and got my finger of fate on the ignore button. Odd though, It seems I have ignored him/her/ it / ?/ on another forum. So say goodbye to any relevance to me and probably many others.

[Deb]

Could it be that Special K is drinking the alcohol as well as removing sticky labels with it?

[mhosea]

I think Laura has the right of it. Had I suspected at the time that Special K was the guy Dan is responding to here, I would have handled it differently.

[RudyR]

I think Laura has the right of it. Had I suspected at the time that Special K was the guy Dan is responding to here, I would have handled it differently.

Yes, remember, Don't feed the trolls.

Only you can prevent trolls

ignore button is your good friend and it saves you time an energy by not responding to silliness

[Hawk]

I have learned two things based on this thread. First, alcohol is harmful to certain pens. Second, Special K's posts are best to be ignored; they may spoil the intent of the thread.
Maybe I should learn not to feed the trolls. However, I felt I had to do it based on the one way explosion that decended on this thread.

[Waski_the_Squirrel]

I'm really glad the vegetable oil worked. I find it works on many glues and does not harm non-porous surfaces.

[Special K]

Thanx

[sgtstretch]

…ding bats… imbeciles would have a damn cow

Yes, because insulting people solves everything! YAY!

[Special K]

Thanx