Twsbi eco

[manoeuver]

Do you know what other nibs may be swapped for the Eco nib?

Nibs from the Mini or Classic swap into the Eco, you have to wiggle them out of the feed housing, which is tight. The 5X0 nibs do not fit in the Eco (I tried.)

The G nib I'm using is heavily modified to fit the eco.

Woulda been nice for pen hackers if TWSBI would have gone with the #6 size nibs; we'd have tons of options for swapping then. As it is we are mostly limited to TWSBI nibs (which makes more sense for TWSBI of course.) The #5 nibs aren't remotely proprietary either, it's just that #6 nibs are more plentiful.

[inklord]

Do you know what other nibs may be swapped for the Eco nib?

Nibs from the Mini or Classic swap into the Eco, you have to wiggle them out of the feed housing, which is tight. The 5X0 nibs do not fit in the Eco (I tried.)

The G nib I'm using is heavily modified to fit the eco.

Woulda been nice for pen hackers if TWSBI would have gone with the #6 size nibs; we'd have tons of options for swapping then. As it is we are mostly limited to TWSBI nibs (which makes more sense for TWSBI of course.) The #5 nibs aren't remotely proprietary either, it's just that #6 nibs are more plentiful.

Would be interesting to extract a #5 Mike Masuyama ground stub or italic from Franklin-Christoph from its JoWo feed assembly and try that in the Eco... one might end up with a sub $90 top-notch nibbed piston filler.

[manoeuver]

Would be interesting to extract a #5 Mike Masuyama ground stub or italic from Franklin-Christoph from its JoWo feed assembly and try that in the Eco... one might end up with a sub $90 top-notch nibbed piston filler.

That's a great idea. I've got one of those, hold on a minute.

[KrazyIvan]

Well my second request was deleted also, so maybe TWSBI does not care to answer the question. A bit off putting.

[manoeuver]

Good Thinking Inklord.

[Laura N]

Do you know what other nibs may be swapped for the Eco nib?

Nibs from the Mini or Classic swap into the Eco, you have to wiggle them out of the feed housing, which is tight. The 5X0 nibs do not fit in the Eco (I tried.)

So does this mean the Eco doesn't have TWSBI's usual screw-in nib assembly?

But one could still swap nibs, as with a Prera nib and other low-end Pilots, by removing the friction-fit nib and feed and then pushing a new one back in place?

I'm sorry I may seem dim but I'm just trying to understand. This TWSBI seems different than the ones I've owned in the past.

[manoeuver]

So does this mean the Eco doesn't have TWSBI's usual screw-in nib assembly?

That is correct.

But one could still swap nibs, as with a Prera nib and other low-end Pilots, by removing the friction-fit nib and feed and then pushing a new one back in place?

Also correct.

I'm sorry I may seem dim but I'm just trying to understand. This TWSBI seems different than the ones I've owned in the past.

Not dim, but wise to ask questions until you're sure you understand. This TWSBI is​ different than all their previous models, in precisely the way you describe. In my opinion it's a better design.

[Ares_92]

Good Thinking Inklord.

Whoa....I'm starting to get ideas haha

So far my Eco has worked very well. I bought a extra-fine nib and have taken it to the daycare I work at and my Biology class for labs. So far so good and I get in a couple minutes of soccer with those kids at work. No problem for the Eco. Great pen, very glad I got one.

Angel

[dannzeman]

I've been rocking a hacked-up G comic nib in mine.

This is sick, bro.

[dannzeman]

I see some of you have seen my review. I plan on posting an update in the next week or so as I've been using it everyday. I haven't had a problem with it posting but wanted to show how little effort was required to get the cap to release. I would have liked TWSBI to have made it so it would post on the barrel. Maybe next time.

[top pen]

So it the Safari beater that it was touted as being?

[reprieve]

I inked up the white Eco with the 1.1mm stub nib this morning (I still haven't inked the black fine nib yet). The 1.1mm nib has good line variation and is super-smooth. I'm using Sailor Sei-boku and I've had zero issues with skipping or hard starting. I like the clear plastic section more than the 580AL's section--since it's plastic, the Eco is less slippery. I like it better aesthetically, too, being able to see the ink saturate the feed. It's really balanced in my hand and isn't back-heavy or front-heavy. It's large enough that I don't want to post it but isn't so big that I feel like I'm wielding a baseball bat.

I'm really impressed so far.

[reprieve]

So it the Safari beater that it was touted as being?

That's how I plan to use mine. I bought two of the Ecos, one white and one black, and am going to use them with high-maintenance inks (Platinum Carbon and Sailor Nano) and toss them in my pencil case to use at work. We'll see how they hold up. At least so far, my initial impressions are very positive and I don't expect to have any issues.

[KrazyIvan]

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[dannzeman]

So it the Safari beater that it was touted as being?

I think there's advantages to both. The Safari is nearly indestructible and has a wider selection of cheaper nibs. But it also has that annoying section and uses a proprietary c/c.

I think the Eco feels better and the piston is a huge bonus. I sincerely hope they've worked out the durability issues but it's too early to tell.

[Armstrong]

The quality of the piston is the thing that draws me to TWSBI pens. There are other lower cost piston pens but they usually have a single seal. I like the Lamy Safari, except for the hole in the body. I like the triangular grip. But, the piston with the ability to wet the feed on demand and remove air from the ink chamber is a huge advantage over the Lamy. And I agree, proprietary cartridge systems, and 'view ports' to keep you from doing an eyedropper conversion burn me. That is why I rarely use a Lamy now.

[manoeuver]

So it the Safari beater that it was touted as being?

For the money, it's a good alternative to the Safari. I'll be keeping my Safaris and using them about as much as I always have for numerous reasons, including:

• Slip cap is very convenient
• I dig the grip section on the Safari.
• time-tested durability
• easier to flush than any piston pen
• sometimes I don't want a ~2ml fill of ink
• sometimes I want to travel with an uninked pen and an untapped cartridge.
• more colors available
• nobody asks me 'is that a vape?'

The eco's potential awesomeness doesn't (can't, really) detract from the strengths of the Safari, which remains a modern classic.

[fountainpenkid]

The funny thing for me is that it took TWSBI to make a budget pen to finally design a functional nib assembly.

[Silverbreeze]

The funny thing for me is that it took TWSBI to make a budget pen to finally design a functional nib assembly.

Grumpy McMuchinton :-)

[Bogon07]

Armstrong - if you like the Safari but not the ink window you could get a rollerball and swap in a fountain pen grip section. Lamy does make a Z24/26 converter if you want to be able to 'prime' the feed piston style.

Every talks about the Safari but not the German Online pens range which includes a large variety at about $10AUD less than the Lamy Safari - which take
international cartridges or converters and have a more rounded less severe triangular grip section. They mostly come with Iridium Point Nibs in M but other options can be sourced including left hand nibs in separate sections. However they don't have the same ABS plastic nor classic design of the Safari.

It will be interesting to see if TWSBI introduce some more colour options in the future for the ECO.