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    Question 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    I have a few 9314s, but no 2442. I was wondering what I am missing out on; they both look like left foot oblique ("righty") stubs. I know the 9xxx have the osmiridium tips, but this isn't a 2314 vs. 9314 so wondering what other difference there is; I can see the the Falcon has a semicircular pattern on the base, and I have gleaned that it may be a carry over from a dip pen that people were attached to.

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    Default Re: 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    I don't know how to put it in words. Very similar, just different. Gah! I have all the x314 variants and a few 2442s, and I really like the xx14-F and 2442 nibs. The look of the 2442 is very cool, and I think the nib is a little longer, as well. TBH, there is enough subtle variation in manufacture and previous usage that you'll only really know if you like it when you try one.
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    Default Re: 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    The 2314 and 9314 are left obliques, and the 2442 is a straight stub. If you rotate the pen with the 2314-B or 9314-B it will be similar to but better than the 2442. The X314-F or X314-M are narrower. Personally I didn't care for any of the 2442s I tried. The 2314s and 9314s were OK.

    I am left handed, and tend to be an over writer. The 2442, advertized as a solution for left handers, did little for me. The obliques tend to keep me checking the orientation of a pen.
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    Default Re: 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    I am a left-handed writer, though not an over-writer. The descriptor "better" is very subjective, and the variation in the nibs we are talking about can be a factor.
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    Default Re: 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    I only have one 2442 and I'm not sure if it's just worn, but there's not much variation in line from vertical to horizontal. The 2314-M is closest to the original 314 Relief dip nib it is based on. The 2314-B is rather large, and I've not tried a 2314-F. The original 442 Jackson Stub dip pen the 2442 is based on was one of the best selling stub nibs for Esterbrook and was a stub falcon in shape. It was a medium stub (not as fine as the 312 Judge's Quill, not as coarse as the 284 Blackstone). The 2442 I have is about the same width as a 2314-M.

    And the oblique makes a difference, for sure. The x314 nib was one of the first Esterbrook made for fountain pens, and remained one of their most popular stub nibs.

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    Default Re: 9314 (Relief Stub) vs. Falcon 2442 ("backhand")

    I don't think I have seen much line variation from Esterbrook's stubs, 2314-F, M, B; 9314-F, M, B or 2442. Nor from 2284 or 9284. Different manufacturers' stubs sometimes show line variation, such as Sheaffer Cadet S-1 stub for example.

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