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    Default Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Hi, I'm selling a Pelikan Athens Cities Series fountain pen. The pen shows not even a trace of ink, and typically, this translucent material will easily show even minute traces. So the pen might be NOS, especially looking at its pristine, original packaging. The booklet and little tag on the clip don't even show the slightest signs of human touch.

    It comes with its original 18k F nib. Pen comes with all boxes and papers.

    Price is $650 shipped to CONUS.


    International buyers welcome, please inquire.

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    PM sent.

    ETA: And, yes, as I suspected: a 55.5% price increase in 5 days, as you could have purchased this for $450. Caveat emptor, FWIW, and all that.

    If I'm out-of-line, the Admin can delete my post.
    Last edited by Jon Szanto; December 26th, 2015 at 06:49 PM.
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Price is the lowest on the internet. Last one on ebay sold for nearly $700. What is a "fair price" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    Price is the lowest on the internet. Last one on ebay sold for nearly $700. What is a "fair price" ?
    Stop trying so hard to miss my point, you'll injure yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    Irrelevant. I'm considering the profit, not the price.
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Maybe we should have a cap on profits

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Beautiful pen Goodluck with sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    Maybe we should have a cap on profits
    Maybe we could just be a little community-spirited? Naaa, that's for losers.

    Ayn is smiling, I'm am just certain of it...
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Low (pre-owned) prices on a few pens:

    Montblanc 146: $175
    Montblanc 149: $275
    M800: $250
    M1000: $300

    So everyone who sells above these prices is guilty of being mean-spirited? Of not being good members of the community? I still don't understand at what price you think I should be charging. I'm simply charging what others have been willing to buy for in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    I'm simply charging what others have been willing to buy for in the past.
    Yep. Very shortly after paying a lot less for it, retail. An NOS pen, from all we can tell. Not used. And certainly no need to make it available at a nice price for forum members.

    "Hey, chumps, I realize you were asleep at the switch, but I picked it up real quick and my favor to you, my fellow forum members, is to jack the price up and make a quick killing. Don't be h8n, I'm just an honest bidness man!"

    Honestly, Chris, I'll bow out. Go on with your sale, good fortune to you. I'm willing to bet my umbrage isn't widely shared, and I've probably pissed people off. I'll deal with it.
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    I am open to selling it without boxes and papers. The price will then drop to $675 shipped, but the buyer will pay via Paypal Gift, giving up any return privileges.
    I'm sorry to say this, but this isn't permitted by PayPal. Not only would your buyer 'have to give up any return privileges' but if for any reason it didn't arrive, then he wouldn't be able to claim for non-delivery either.

    Be honest, would you have bought it from FPH on that basis?

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    I see more and more sellers on this forum asking for paypal gift. It's really starting to turn me off. That's one sales rule that I would love to see makes its way over from FPN.

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Wow. Bought on 12/22/15.

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    If I had the money I would buy it beautiful pen at I would say a reasonable price

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    I am open to selling it without boxes and papers. The price will then drop to $675 shipped, but the buyer will pay via Paypal Gift, giving up any return privileges.
    I'm sorry to say this, but this isn't permitted by PayPal. Not only would your buyer 'have to give up any return privileges' but if for any reason it didn't arrive, then he wouldn't be able to claim for non-delivery either.

    Be honest, would you have bought it from FPH on that basis?
    Point taken, and I've changed the post accordingly.

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    With patience, one should be able to find one selling at roughly retail price. Save your nickels first and maybe it will be a reality besides saving hundreds of SSS.
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    I have bought a few pens from FPH on their " Super Special " page. I bought them because I loved the pens and the prices were too good to pass up. Yeah, I could have sold them on again and made a huge healthy profit but would never do it here to another FPN member. I even considered buying that particular Pelikan Athens when it was listed there but I am not a fan of Pelikans so passed it over.

    No rule against selling a pen, you just bought cheap, for a healthy profit but it ain't gonna win you many friends when you try to do it here.

    @Jon...not many would have had the gonads to speak up...I applaud you.

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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    Call me profit-seeking, and that is fine because it's TRUE. I'm proud to say that. Profit-seeking is a societal good. Any basic economics course will teach that. But "caveat emptor" .... what are you trying to imply? I'm a 100% honest seller. I have never cheated anyone on a pen here or on eBay. My prices may not be below market price but the pens are awesome and the descriptions are accurate.

    I bought the Athens at below market price, and now I'm selling it at market price.

    This also calls into question what a "fair price" is. What exactly should I have charged? Is the profit a problem? How much do our favorite retailors, vintage dealers, and nib meisters charge? Should the retailers charge closer to wholesale cost? Does the commission rate of vintage dealers need to be 35%? Why not 30? 25? Why do some nib meisters charge so much? You telling me they couldn't do it for $10 less? Are they "gouging" ? NO...Why do people get to charge what they charge? Because other people outbid other people. What is wrong with that? If someone is willing to pay more, I'm gonna sell it to them.

    And I know that some here have said that what I did with this Athens pen isn't "community oriented" or that it's not the time and place to do this. In that case, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking a profit and providing a service that people want.

    That said, I've realized it was a mistake to include the spiel about where the pen was bought.
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    Default Re: Pelikan Athens City Series Fountain Pen

    These type of discussions are imho, disrespectful to the seller. In terms of issues, where do they stop and where so they end?

    If this was a community of adults, then sellers should be able to post and sell their items unmolested. Potential buyers should be afforded the given, that they will use their own due diligence to evaluate a purchase for their own needs.

    If this "community" preferred to limit certain selling behaviors, then rules should be set up to do so.
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