near mint celluloid OBB 144

[SIR]

No affiliation but can heartily recommend seller.

http://www.hepworthdixon.com/product...e5c00b81d76dec

[jar]

Nice pen but the price seems a bit strong.

[SIR]

Nice pen but the price seems a bit strong.

Maybe, but another UK seller has a 'grade C' example for £275...
https://vintagefountainpens.co.uk/pr...five-star-nib/

I look at it in comparison to buying a 2016 144 new today.

[carlc]

To be honest neither Vintage Fountain Pens nor Hepworth Dixon are noted for being cheap. But that seems to increasingly be the case with many sellers in the UK these days.

[SIR]

Oh OK, thanks carlc!
What would you reckon to be a fairer or more representative market price for a near mint condition, late celluloid 149, particularly in OBB?

[carlc]

Sorry no idea - I was responding to jar's comment (and bemoaning the state of the pen market in the UK these days).

I suppose a reasonable price is what someone is willing to pay (I've been known to over pay for something I wanted - just ask Cob about his Rose marble NS Duofold that was on eBay ). However I have watched the price of pens in the UK climb over the years and kept an eye on the seller's websites. There are a few in the UK I would only buy from if it was a pen I really wanted (and couldn't find elsewhere).

ETA: I'm not saying Hepworth Dixon or Vintage Fountain Pens are not completely good retailers with good service.

[SIR]

However I have watched the price of pens in the UK climb over the years and kept an eye on the seller's websites. There are a few in the UK I would only buy from if it was a pen I really wanted (and couldn't find elsewhere).

Tell me about it!
But they ain't getting any less vintage are they?

I have a 2003 Antiques Price Guide by Judith Miller which I was flicking through briefly t'other day, some examples;
c.1954 semi-oblique broad wing nib MB 252 £90-£130
c.1957 oblique plastic MB Monterosa 024G German for Arab markets £40-£60(!)
1993 Montblanc Octavian filigree complete w/ all papers and original packaging £1600-£1700
c. 1950 MB 246G PL striated celluloid £500-£600
c.1936 MB 234.5 blue black marbled celluloid w/ 4 nib £800-£1000
c.1929 Wahl-Eversharp Gold-Seal Decoband, rosewood oversize hard rubber, personal point w/ Gold Seal Manifold nib £100-£150

[SIR]

For reference, we have an eBay seller asking £2700 for the Octavian with all papers etc right now!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/montblanc-...-/290859261740

[carlc]

My what a detailed description.

To be fair this isn't restricted to pens anymore. I referee (and to an extent collect) Traveller RPG and some of the prices for the original stuff is mad. This is the RPG equivalent of vintage, but if anyone ever uses that term even for the first print books I'll go mad (the first edition is 1977).

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[SIR]

My what a detailed description.

Indeed!
Quite unlike this one,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Montblanc-...3D290859261740

[Jon Szanto]

As always, I find "sold" prices rather than "asking" prices far more relevant when doing research on what the market is at any given time. People can ask whatever they want, all that counts is what the item eventually sells for.

[FredRydr]

In the states, £375 in the condition described would be retail for a celluloid 146, but that's a stretch for a 144. It's just the way it is for smaller model pens, even if they're not all that small.

Fred