Nice!!! The yellow pen is awesome.
Let me guess (f.l.t.r):
1= Sonnet flighter, 2= 25 Flighter, 3= ???? Not a Duofold... .. 4= Slimfold, 5= UK Duofold, 6= New Duofold Uk edition.
Tell me which were wrong? Tell me about the yellow one
Nice!!! The yellow pen is awesome.
Let me guess (f.l.t.r):
1= Sonnet flighter, 2= 25 Flighter, 3= ???? Not a Duofold... .. 4= Slimfold, 5= UK Duofold, 6= New Duofold Uk edition.
Tell me which were wrong? Tell me about the yellow one
Last edited by Lexaf; January 17th, 2018 at 11:19 AM.
The "Big Red" was a ballpoint and, I think, rollerball, popular in the 1970s. Enterprising folks have found various fountain pen sections to fit it. Off the top of my head I want to say a Cross Solo and the Pilot MR/Metropolitan among them. I believe you can also do something a little more complicated using a 45. Google will no doubt find the details.
usk15 completely defeated me, because nothing I could do would make either a Slimfold or a Duofold Lady look the right length in comparison to a Duofold Junior or Victory MkV. Well, no, because I'd completely forgotten the narrow band on the Senior, which is what I should have been comparing them to.
Indeed, the Big Red is a RB/BP transformed in a FP with Cross Solo section. But...still half English Parker....
The Big Red ball/rollerball pens were given out by companies as advertising with their logos on them. Much nicer than the crap we get now. They used standard Parker cartridges in them so they lasted and hopefully, not a throwawy.
We have met the enemy and he is us.
-Pogo
Here's an inadvertent mini-collection that's developed over the course of gathering vintage pens in my white trim focus: a celluloid pattern perhaps best known from 2nd-gen Dorics and UK Valentines/Duofolds. It has has assumed various names in collector circles, including ‘web’, ‘hatch’, ‘shell’, 'candy stripe', and ‘basketweave’:
L to R:
1. Matador Express (Germany, piston filler)
2. Aurora Selene (Italy, button filler)
3. No-Name (Aurora? Italy? button-filler)
4. Wahl-Eversharp 2nd-Gen Doric OS (USA, plunger filler)
5. Wahl-Eversharp Oxford (USA, twist filler)
6. Big Ben (Denmark, piston filler)
7. Onoto De La Rue 5600 (UK, plunger filler)
8. Mentmore Diploma (UK, button filler)
9. WASP “Clipper” (USA, lever filler)
10. Stephens Leverfil (UK, lever filler)
11. Stylomine 303 (France, accordion filler)
12. Parker Televisor (Canada, button filler)
13. Moore (USA, lever filler)
14. Edacoto (France, lever filler)
15. Mabie Todd/Swan Swallow (USA, lever filler)
Last edited by popcod; February 28th, 2018 at 09:55 PM.
aka Estragon (FPN); popcodswallop (Reddit)
WANTED: Vintage Pens with White Trim! –> Sheaffer: OS Balance w/ reverse trim (grey/red vein); Balance (grey/red fleck) | First-Yr Crest (silver cap); Canadian Balance 5-30 (roseglow, ebonized pearl, green) | Waterman: Lady Patricia (persian) | Wahl-Eversharp: Half Coronet (rhodium cap); Doric (Cathay); Skyline (SS/Sterling Cap) | Rebadged Parkers from Diamond Medal and Webster (silver web, pinstripe, etc.)
amk (March 1st, 2018), astor268 (October 16th, 2018), catbert (February 28th, 2018), da vinci (February 28th, 2018), farmdogfan (March 1st, 2018), FredRydr (March 31st, 2018), Hawk (April 1st, 2018), jodylud (March 1st, 2018), Jon Szanto (February 28th, 2018), Lady Onogaro (April 8th, 2018), Lexaf (February 28th, 2018), NibsForScript (April 9th, 2018), Replicant (April 9th, 2018), usk15 (February 28th, 2018)
A great post for reference! Thank you.
Wow, those are lovely. It's interesting how the Aurora and its companion stand out as really rich colour compared to the relative reticence of most of the others.
I see quite a lot of Valentines in the candystripe pattern - is that how Parker got it into the bloodstream, with their acquisition of Valentine?
I'm largely limited to shades of gray, sadly, owing to my focus on pens with white trim. Most of the more colorful webbed patterns were only available with gold trim. There are some nice subtleties, however, like the Onoto that appears grey webbed but is actually blue on closer scrutiny.
I can't pretend to be a Parker expert, but that certainly sounds like a plausible theory to me concerning the candystripe plastics.
aka Estragon (FPN); popcodswallop (Reddit)
WANTED: Vintage Pens with White Trim! –> Sheaffer: OS Balance w/ reverse trim (grey/red vein); Balance (grey/red fleck) | First-Yr Crest (silver cap); Canadian Balance 5-30 (roseglow, ebonized pearl, green) | Waterman: Lady Patricia (persian) | Wahl-Eversharp: Half Coronet (rhodium cap); Doric (Cathay); Skyline (SS/Sterling Cap) | Rebadged Parkers from Diamond Medal and Webster (silver web, pinstripe, etc.)
amk (March 3rd, 2018)
Thanks to all for keeping the tread alive! Here comes a very mini-collection of green Pelikan:
Christof
Three Wahl-Eversharp Desk Pens:
We have met the enemy and he is us.
-Pogo
amk (September 5th, 2018), azkid (April 7th, 2018), farmdogfan (May 20th, 2018), jodylud (October 26th, 2018), Lady Onogaro (April 8th, 2018), NibsForScript (April 7th, 2018), penwash (April 7th, 2018), popcod (April 10th, 2018), Replicant (April 9th, 2018), sharmon202 (April 14th, 2018)
A few more in my ray celluloid collection. I just added a Swiss FP/MP set, and a French FP. To be honest, I've lost track of what's there and I really must inventory this drawer.
amk (July 2nd, 2018), astor268 (October 16th, 2018), catbert (May 19th, 2018), Cyril (June 13th, 2023), da vinci (May 19th, 2018), farmdogfan (May 20th, 2018), Jon Szanto (September 3rd, 2018), NibsForScript (May 19th, 2018), penwash (May 19th, 2018), popcod (June 6th, 2018)
It's stunning to see all those all together, Fred. I never knew that so many different companies offered this pattern. A truly impressive spread.
I posted this elsewhere, but with an eye to reviving this thread, here is Waterman's share in my celluloid-white trim mini-collection:
3V (Claret)
32A-V set (red/green)
Military Clip (brown/red)
Thorobred (brown/red)
Thorobred set (grey/red)
32 set (Jet)
3 set (Black Pearl)
32 set (Steel Quartz)
3 (Green Pearl, stickered)
32 (Mahogany)
92 (Green & Bronze, reverse trim)
5 (Jet, Purple nib)
94 (Blue/cream)
94 set (Grey/red fleck)
Patrician in rough shape (Nacre)
Lady Patricia Ink Vue (Sunset)
Lady Patricia Ink Vue (Mist)
Ink Vue (Silver Ray)
Ink Vue (Jet)
Unidentified (Jet)
Unidentified (red)
Glass Cartridge Filler (Grey)
Junior (Green)
Junior (Brown)
Junior (Jet)
Stalwart 354v (Grey, stickered)
aka Estragon (FPN); popcodswallop (Reddit)
WANTED: Vintage Pens with White Trim! –> Sheaffer: OS Balance w/ reverse trim (grey/red vein); Balance (grey/red fleck) | First-Yr Crest (silver cap); Canadian Balance 5-30 (roseglow, ebonized pearl, green) | Waterman: Lady Patricia (persian) | Wahl-Eversharp: Half Coronet (rhodium cap); Doric (Cathay); Skyline (SS/Sterling Cap) | Rebadged Parkers from Diamond Medal and Webster (silver web, pinstripe, etc.)
astor268 (October 16th, 2018), azkid (June 28th, 2018), catbert (June 28th, 2018), Cyril (June 13th, 2023), da vinci (June 28th, 2018), farmdogfan (June 29th, 2018), FredRydr (June 28th, 2018), Jon Szanto (September 3rd, 2018), penwash (June 28th, 2018)
Holy Moly! I thought I was hooked on ray celluloid... but that's a really bad ray habit! impressive collection!
The most amazing thing is the silver shimmer in the picture. You'd swear some of those pens were sterling.
time for a new mini collection!
tortoises:
Pelikan Tortoises von -C.M.Z-
C.
amk (September 5th, 2018), astor268 (October 16th, 2018), azkid (September 3rd, 2018), bdoddemajr (September 3rd, 2018), carlos.q (September 3rd, 2018), catbert (September 3rd, 2018), Cyril (June 13th, 2023), da vinci (September 4th, 2018), FredRydr (September 3rd, 2018), jodylud (October 26th, 2018), Jon Szanto (September 3rd, 2018), kevmid (September 3rd, 2018), NibsForScript (September 11th, 2018), popcod (September 6th, 2018), VertOlive (September 5th, 2018)
of course Fred.
from left to right:
Pelikan 101, 1935
Pelikan 101N, 1937
Pelikan 101N, 1950
Pelikan 100N, 1938
Pelikan 101N, 1950
Pelikan 400, 1950
I never even knew the 400 existed in that celluloid! Wow, wow, wow!
By the way, someone a few posts back was talking about how nice the Big Red was as an advertising pen... I see quite a lot of Sheaffer Nononsense and Waterman Forum used as advertising pens, too; does anyone collect the publicity pens? I have one or two, but two doesn't quite make a mini-collection.
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