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    Default Fake MB seller on eBay

    This guy actually sold one and got positive feedback

    Seller: idawithlove

    Item: 122192377107, 122184100897

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Quote Originally Posted by mandrbeck View Post
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    I'm shocked, shocked there're fake Montblancs being listed on eBay!

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Clever.

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    What I think is interesting is that he is getting positive feedback on really bad fakes, sold at fairly high prices.

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    Keep in mind that the reason fakes sell is because people are willing to buy them, again and again, and give positive feedback again and again (or shills post it). When evaluating an item on eBay, don't rely on positive feedback for this very reason.

    Novice Montblanc collectors should beware, but over and over again they buy first and then post queries on FPN asking whether their bargain is a fake. It often is. In any event, there's a flood of counterfeit goods for all the luxury brands, and just because Montblanc used to be a venerable pen manufacturer before the Richemont era, it's not immune from this scourge.

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Buy vintage.


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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    I just bought this monblanc fountain on ebay. It is vintage Any idea on what year?

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PpYAAO...SS/s-l1600.jpg

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Quote Originally Posted by inspector4545 View Post
    I just bought this monblanc fountain on ebay. It is vintage Any idea on what year?

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PpYAAO...SS/s-l1600.jpg
    Sorry but the 'iridium' nib is a clear sign of a fake. The cap is poorly built (with clear damage/poor quality) and the body looks generic and Chinese.

    What was it sold as (any model number)?

    Is it a cartridge/converter pen?

    Clear guidelines here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/FAKE-MONTB...2750150/g.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by inspector4545 View Post
    I just bought this monblanc fountain on ebay. It is vintage Any idea on what year?

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PpYAAO...SS/s-l1600.jpg
    First, welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell. As pointed out, unfortunately what you bought is a total fake Montblanc. It's not even a vintage fake, it just a modern fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspector4545 View Post
    I just bought this monblanc fountain on ebay....
    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Novice Montblanc collectors should beware, but over and over again they buy first and then post queries on FPN asking whether their bargain is a fake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mandrbeck View Post
    This guy actually sold one and got positive feedback

    Seller: idawithlove

    Item: 122192377107, 122184100897
    I've decided to tell you a story that may interest you. Once upon a time, years ago now, I used to report fake Montblanc items, that I saw listed, to ebay.co.uk. I used to become frustrated because many of them sold without being removed.

    So I emailed the then ebay.UK CEO. He was very helpful about the problem, and was instrumental in setting up a group of trusted ebay members, who could all report different fake designer items, to a special ebay team. They could then be removed, and removed quickly. It worked really well in those early days.

    On a daily basis, I went through ebay listings and reported fake Montblanc items, and they were removed. I did that for 9 years. During this time I was asked to not just search on ebay UK, but to also search on other ebay European sites. Then I was asked to include ebay.com. After ebay.com joined the party, the original special ebay team was switched and became based in the US. I then started to notice that when I reported fake Montblancs that may have been unwittingly listed by large sellers, they weren't removed. When I asked about this I was advised that they weren't necessarily being removed for large sellers.

    I didn't feel comfortable with this, as I felt that picking and choosing which fake items were removed didn't sit well with me, then as removal of fake items became slower and slower, I advised ebay I didn't want to do it anymore.

    For a couple more years I carried on and removed Montblanc items by assisting someone in Richemont Group as a Vero agent on ebay. Then they moved their removal team to the US, and my services were no longer required.

    What happens now is unclear, but from what I've seen, it's hit and miss, with many fake items selling to unsuspecting buyers.

    I wish you all the luck in the world if you try to get them removed, because I can safely say I've been there, done it and got the T-Shirt. It's a thankless task.
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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    ...For a couple more years I carried on and removed Montblanc items by assisting someone in Richemont Group as a Vero agent on ebay. Then they moved their removal team to the US, and my services were no longer required....
    It seems strange that Richemont (as opposed to eBay) abandoned its European effort to fight counterfeit Montblanc sales on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    ...For a couple more years I carried on and removed Montblanc items by assisting someone in Richemont Group as a Vero agent on ebay. Then they moved their removal team to the US, and my services were no longer required....
    It seems strange that Richemont (as opposed to eBay) abandoned its European effort to fight counterfeit Montblanc sales on eBay.

    Fred
    It does. Maybe that is just what they told me. But they never seemed to be overly bothered about fakes on ebay UK, as opposed to fake web-sites that were set up on a daily basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inspector4545 View Post
    I just bought this monblanc fountain on ebay. It is vintage Any idea on what year?

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PpYAAO...SS/s-l1600.jpg
    Apparently the seller has no idea it was a fake. Good thing he cancel the transaction. Watch out for those fakes especially on eBay.


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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/162350713617...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    An amazingly fake eBay listing: notice that the 'o' in 'Montblanc' is actually a zero '0'. The nib is listed as fine, where the piston knob is clearly marked 'M'. They also misspell Monblanc later as "MONBLANS".

    So what give? I bet those are pictures of a real Montblanc, but not the item you will be receiving. Rather clever, no?

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    Default Re: Fake MB seller on eBay

    Also this pen is shipping from China. I would not trust any of the Montblanc listing coming from China. Unless seller is very reputable or have been selling genuine pens for a long time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/162350713617...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    An amazingly fake eBay listing: notice that the 'o' in 'Montblanc' is actually a zero '0'. The nib is listed as fine, where the piston knob is clearly marked 'M'. They also misspell Monblanc later as "MONBLANS".

    So what give? I bet those are pictures of a real Montblanc, but not the item you will be receiving. Rather clever, no?
    Unlikely to be a fake. Just a really worn 246. And not at all unusual to find the nib different than what is stamped on the piston knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/162350713617...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    An amazingly fake eBay listing: notice that the 'o' in 'Montblanc' is actually a zero '0'. The nib is listed as fine, where the piston knob is clearly marked 'M'. They also misspell Monblanc later as "MONBLANS".

    So what give? I bet those are pictures of a real Montblanc, but not the item you will be receiving. Rather clever, no?
    Unlikely to be a fake. Just a really worn 246. And not at all unusual to find the nib different than what is stamped on the piston knob.
    Unlikely even from a week old account out of China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/162350713617...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    An amazingly fake eBay listing: notice that the 'o' in 'Montblanc' is actually a zero '0'. The nib is listed as fine, where the piston knob is clearly marked 'M'. They also misspell Monblanc later as "MONBLANS".

    So what give? I bet those are pictures of a real Montblanc, but not the item you will be receiving. Rather clever, no?
    Unlikely to be a fake. Just a really worn 246. And not at all unusual to find the nib different than what is stamped on the piston knob.
    Unlikely even from a week old account out of China?
    Correct. The pen is unlikely to be a fake. That does not mean the goal is not a con but if someone is going to try to sell a fake I doubt they would create a second tier worn out pen as the model.

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    shoot. Well, now I kind of wish I'd bid on it!

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