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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by stub View Post
    I have tried the Diamine Reg. ink. Nice ink, but the flow is the same really or less than the Platinum IG ink so that is a lateral move. I am looking for a Blue Black that is a true (subjective as that is) Blue-black-esque color but NOT IG.

    <snippage>

    Sailor looks like a strong candidate as does Akkerman #10 but I can't get that here.
    I believe Akkerman #10 is also an IG. And I agree about Platinum BB; a tragically under-appreciated ink. I wonder if adding a surfactant to it is a possibility?

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by grainweevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by stub View Post
    I have tried the Diamine Reg. ink. Nice ink, but the flow is the same really or less than the Platinum IG ink so that is a lateral move. I am looking for a Blue Black that is a true (subjective as that is) Blue-black-esque color but NOT IG.

    <snippage>

    Sailor looks like a strong candidate as does Akkerman #10 but I can't get that here.
    I believe Akkerman #10 is also an IG. And I agree about Platinum BB; a tragically under-appreciated ink. I wonder if adding a surfactant to it is a possibility?
    It is an IG ink and very similar to the Diamine Registrars.... as it is manufactured by Diamine.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Shame you don't like 4001 Blue-Black, but good in a way. All the more available for me.
    I like a mix of Aurora Blue:Aurora Black at about 3:1. I might try 4:1 for the next batch, just to give a little more lightness.
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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    I like Sailor Blue Black, and I'm trying out Sailor Kobe #7, and really like it too. Iro Shin-Kai is also pretty nice.

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    Looks like I'll stick to my Platinum for my wet pens and try Sailor for the stingier pens or just finish out this Pelikan Tanzanite, which really is a nice color. I just figured with all the Blue Blacks out there there had to be a good easy flowing "genuine" looking non IG Blue Black out there.

    The Sailor might work out. Looks good in reviews, but then so did the Iroshizuku Blue black(s) and I didn't like those at all in real life. I have no idea but Shin-kai just look like it is somehow missing something. Really hard to put my finger on it but I was pretty excited to see it on line and underwhelmed in real life. But Iroshizuku isn't readily available here anyway. I brought my Asa-gao back from Japan.

    I still have about 10mls of Shin-kai maybe I should try again.

    I didn't know the Akkerman #10 is IG. Certainly looks different than Diamine Reg. ink. TAS over on FPN had a good example of it and it looked darker.

    Thanks all..

    (If only they sill made old Parker Blue-Black with Solv-x haha)



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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    (might also try Lamy, that is VERY available here)

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Sheaffer Skrip Blue Black (I haven't tried it), Diamine-Oxford Blue...I know you said Diamine blues don't do it for ya, but this is a newer one. I had a sample of Oxford Blue, but it didn't seem like a "buy" for me. I happen to love Diamine-Blue Velvet. These might've been discussed already. If so, sorry about that. For a darker blue, I really like Diamine-Midnight. So you probably already saw the 3 Diamine inks I mentioned. I like Waterman Blue Black...but I hear it will fade over time. My ink has not turned teal at all.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    Sheaffer Skrip Blue Black (I haven't tried it)
    Decent budget choice. A little off color wise but have used it off and on. Currently have it in a desk pen. I oddly really like Skrip Blue, which is a nice no fuss budget medium blue with decent flow and lubrication and in a wet pen and good paper will even sheen a little. But I don't love Skip Blue-black. It isn't terrible though.


    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    Diamine-Oxford Blue...I know you said Diamine blues don't do it for ya, but this is a newer one. I had a sample of Oxford Blue, but it didn't seem like a "buy" for me.
    I used Oxford blue all summer. Not a bad ink but not at all a blue black and indeed not a pure blue either. Looks bluer in reviews than in real life where it definitely has a lot of green. A nice classy ink though with a lot of punch. But not anywhere near blue black so I am somewhat confused about why you bring it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    I happen to love Diamine-Blue Velvet.
    I do too. One of my most used inks. Always in some pens. Wish it came in the 80ml bottles. But again, not a Blue-black so I am confused why it is here.


    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    I really like Diamine-Midnight. So you probably already saw the 3 Diamine inks I mentioned. I like Waterman Blue Black...but I hear it will fade over time. My ink has not turned teal at all.
    I like midnight as well. It is my laxative ink and used in my most stingy pens.

    I want so bad to like Waterman Blue Black. God knows I adore Fl. Blue and probably have moved through more bottles of it than anything else. But the Waterman Blue Black is a weak tea indeed.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Maybe it depends on your pen, ink, and paper. The inks I mentioned look blue-black to me. Maybe I was using a wider nib than you. I looked these up for you. I can't help you with more choices. In some pens some of them aren't as blue black, in other pens the inks I mentioned do look blue black to me. I would've said Noodler's-Navy just for the heck of it, but once again, I guess it depends on the pen. I haven't tried that, but I've seen samples of it online. Some look much darker than others. I am sorry that I couldn't help you more, but I tried.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Thanks all. Thanks Kkay. I'll try Sailor and see how that is.

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    I have to say that Sailor Jentle Blue-Black is my goto. Every time I've used it (cartridges and bottles) it has been a rich colour with some sheen to it. It is actually the ink that stopped me going crazy over "COLOURFUL" inks and appreciate a good writing colour with great performance.
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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Stub. . Expensive but you'd love Bung box 4B. Great stuff.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    I like Diamine Midnight. That's not a teal blue-black like Twilight is, and it's quite similar to Mb JFK.

    I prefer dark and really dark blues rather than blue-blacks, and Midnight fits the bill for me.

    Also Diamine Regency Blue goes darker in many of my pens after a week.
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    This might be a bit odd, but a few weeks ago I got the bug to buy one of those "coke bottles" of Pilot Blue-Black. 350ml for $22.00. I had never thought of the ink before I was at the last pen show and Dan Smith was using it for his pen work. Took a pen home with the ink in it and... I actually like it. It reminds me of the Sailor Jentle b/b as well, or any other basic, middle-of-the-road b/b. And then, just the other night, I decided to test it next to Namiki Blue, which has been a go-to ink for me when I have any concern about water-resistance. Sure enough, though not advertised, this ink does remarkably well under running water!

    So, I've got enough ink to last for a long, long time, and it will be really handy when working on pen restores, because the cost-per-ml is so low yet is still a good ink, that I don't even give it a thought. You might try getting a sample (hit me up if you want some) and decide before you buy the big bottle. I didn't look, but I'm sure it's available in smaller, though probably not the same bargain.

    And, hey, if you're feeling swank, I can 2nd the vote for Bungubox 4B, a really nice ink.
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    I'd love to try Bungbox 4B and Sapphire but I live in Korea, the land that fountain pens forgot. But 4B looks really nice as do many of the bungbox inks. If I ever get to Japan again I will be sure to try to pick up a couple. I also like the looks for Omaezaki Sea and the Piano Mahogany and a few others. Alas ... maybe someday.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Also Diamine Regency Blue goes darker in many of my pens after a week.
    Glad to know this is not just me. hah!

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    While it's not listed as a "blue black" per se, I've found the only ink I consider a true blue-black is...

    R & K Leipziger Schwarz

    It's considered a black ink, but what I see is an extremely dark, pure blue-black.

    I wanted a blue-black like this for my Sailor KOP, and I did a lot of research and ran a lot of so called blue-black inks through the pen. Nothing even came close to what I was looking for. The R &K finally hit the mark for me.

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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    This might be a bit odd, but a few weeks ago I got the bug to buy one of those "coke bottles" of Pilot Blue-Black. 350ml for $22.00. I had never thought of the ink before I was at the last pen show and Dan Smith was using it for his pen work. Took a pen home with the ink in it and... I actually like it. It reminds me of the Sailor Jentle b/b as well, or any other basic, middle-of-the-road b/b. And then, just the other night, I decided to test it next to Namiki Blue, which has been a go-to ink for me when I have any concern about water-resistance. Sure enough, though not advertised, this ink does remarkably well under running water!

    So, I've got enough ink to last for a long, long time, and it will be really handy when working on pen restores, because the cost-per-ml is so low yet is still a good ink, that I don't even give it a thought. You might try getting a sample (hit me up if you want some) and decide before you buy the big bottle. I didn't look, but I'm sure it's available in smaller, though probably not the same bargain.

    And, hey, if you're feeling swank, I can 2nd the vote for Bungubox 4B, a really nice ink.
    So I had to go look up what you meant by "coke bottles"... I'm assuming you meant this: http://www.japanpen.com/product/101 ?
    If so, they're pretty cool.

    And I have an unopened bottle of 4B... sounds like I need to crack that open and fill a pen

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    Quote Originally Posted by naimitsu View Post
    So I had to go look up what you meant by "coke bottles"... I'm assuming you meant this: http://www.japanpen.com/product/101 ?
    Yep. I got one off Amazon. I can share with friends, include a sample vial with pens that get sold, etc. Pretty good value if you have use for a bunch of ink!
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    Default Re: Help me find a blue black

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Yep. I got one off Amazon.
    Hmmm... your Amazon searching skills must be better than mine! I couldn't find the giant bottle there. May have to give it another go

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