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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    I've returned to this thread because I found the link that Laura so kindly sent me when I first talked about chroma testing.

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Someone recently contacted me about Montblanc Racing Green ink. I'm bumping this thread up so that he can easily find it if he's a member on here.

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Chrissy,

    What currently produced ink have you discovered that is about as close as you can get to Racing Green?

    Fred

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    These two images from when I did the brief comment about Diamine Classic Green might be of some assistance.

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    Diamine Classic Green-next_0003.jpg

    Always worth another look. Diamine Salamander could also be a contender but might be a bit dark - of course it depends on nib width and paper.
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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Chrissy,

    What currently produced ink have you discovered that is about as close as you can get to Racing Green?

    Fred
    I would also say Diamine Classic Green and Sailor Jentle Tokiwa Matsu or Epinard (99.99% same)

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    What they all seem to miss is the /grey/ aspect of MBRG (note that it is not MBBRG).

    I’ll stick with the original a while longer.

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    You might want to also view Geoduck's excellent side by side comparison of MB Racing Green to the seven closest contenders at the other forum pen site. (I don't know if this forum will ban me for linking to another group's forum, so to view it just google "Geoduck, Montblanc Racing Green Comparison".) That should get you right to it.

    All the Best.

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    ...I don't know if this forum will ban me for linking to another group's forum....
    Nah! Geoduck's excellent side by side comparison of MB Racing Green to the seven closest contenders

    On closer inspection of Geoduck's exemplars, IMHO of the eight inks in his selection, only the Noodler's Sequoia is close to MBRG in color, but other attributes of Noodler's inks knocks that out of contention.
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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by lsmith42 View Post
    What they all seem to miss is the /grey/ aspect of MBRG (note that it is not MBBRG).

    I’ll stick with the original a while longer.
    Yes they do seem to miss the grey aspect of Montblanc Racing Green and although Noodler's Sequoia get's that aspect, it also looks a bit more blue. And I agree it was never issued as Montblanc British Racing Green @The Good Captain: I'm afraid you got that wrong.
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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lsmith42 View Post
    What they all seem to miss is the /grey/ aspect of MBRG (note that it is not MBBRG).

    I’ll stick with the original a while longer.
    Yes they do seem to miss the grey aspect of Montblanc Racing Green and although Noodler's Sequoia get's that aspect, it also looks a bit more blue. And I agree it was never issued as Montblanc British Racing Green @The Good Captain: I'm afraid you got that wrong.
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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Good Captain View Post
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    What they all seem to miss is the /grey/ aspect of MBRG (note that it is not MBBRG).

    I’ll stick with the original a while longer.
    Yes they do seem to miss the grey aspect of Montblanc Racing Green and although Noodler's Sequoia get's that aspect, it also looks a bit more blue. And I agree it was never issued as Montblanc British Racing Green @The Good Captain: I'm afraid you got that wrong.
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    Obviously... that’s ok... really... don’t worry about it...

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by lsmith42 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsmith42 View Post
    What they all seem to miss is the /grey/ aspect of MBRG (note that it is not MBBRG).

    I’ll stick with the original a while longer.
    Yes they do seem to miss the grey aspect of Montblanc Racing Green and although Noodler's Sequoia get's that aspect, it also looks a bit more blue. And I agree it was never issued as Montblanc British Racing Green @The Good Captain: I'm afraid you got that wrong.
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    Obviously... that’s ok... really... don’t worry about it...

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Shootout between junglejim's and FredRydr's two faux RG mixes against OEM MBRG.

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    It's nice to have an original bottle of Montblanc Racing Green on hand, but really, with the formula, anyone can mix up a batch that is close enough that no one can tell, except perhaps for the writer when it comes to drying time. Jim was more precise in his measurements than I was (white cap), and he used the modern MB black. His care and precision paid off, and IMHO is the better of the two faux inks. If I had a half bottle or so, I would add another drop of black, but I only have about 6ml left. I know! I'll mix Jim's and mine together!

    Have fun!

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Beautiful job, Fred! Thank-you for the comparisons. Thanks to Chrissy and her chroma breakdowns, Fred was able to mix up a batch of Racing Green. Keeping all the inks within the Montblanc family lessens the chance of nasty interaction (curdling, seperation, precipitation). Unfortunately, MB Golden Yellow is a Limited Edition ink which means it will disappear from sale sometime in the future. It's also expensive at $20.95 for 30 mls (very nice container, though), so mixing up Chrissy's Racing Green is only for the desperate. I spent $23.50 x 2 plus $20.50 = $67.50 US for this experiment. Happily, I do have a lot of MB Mystery Black and Royal Blue left over for work.

    All the Best.
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    Excellent review Fred, thank you. I can confirm I've seen your original and faux MBRG writing in person and I couldn't see any difference.

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    Default Re: Who wants to make their own Montblanc Racing Green ink?

    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    Beautiful job, Fred! Thank-you for the comparisons. Thanks to Chrissy and her chroma breakdowns, Fred was able to mix up a batch of Racing Green. Keeping all the inks within the Montblanc family lessens the chance of nasty interaction (curdling, seperation, precipitation). Unfortunately, MB Golden Yellow is a Limited Edition ink which means it will disappear from sale sometime in the future. It's also expensive at $20.95 for 30 mls (very nice container, though), so mixing up Chrissy's Racing Green is only for the desperate. I spent $23.50 x 2 plus $20.50 = $67.50 US for this experiment. Happily, I do have a lot of MB Mystery Black and Royal Blue left over for work.

    All the Best.
    You're welcome.

    As far as Mb Golden Yellow is concerned, it's nothing particularly unusual as yellow inks go. I'm confident Monteverde Topaz Yellow would produce a very similar result. I've also used Diamine Sunshine Yellow for mixing. There aren't that many different yellow dye and water based inks that there will be any particularly noticeable difference in the final ink mix.

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