Let's make America Grate Again.

[Chuck Naill]

Does anyone know if Trump ever paid those cities where he held rallies?

[TSherbs]

Are there user fees?

[Chuck Naill]

Are there user fees?

There were cities in 2019-2020 still waiting from 2016.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/campa...b0304a120c9a1c

[kazoolaw]

Advice about advancing money to candidates/politicians: Don't
"After raising more than $100 million in her second bid to be Georgia governor, the Stacey Abrams campaign owes more than $1 million in debt to vendors, two-time campaign manager Lauren Groh-Wargo confirmed to Axios."
https://www.axios.com/2022/12/19/sta...-governor-debt

[Chuck Naill]

Are you concerned equally that Trump raised a quarter of a billion promoting his election was stolen, or is your concern, as I suspect, subjective?

[kazoolaw]

"Candidates/politicians " is a deliberately bipartisan term.

[Chuck Naill]

So, you have no problem with his fund raising off a lie? How does that square with your religion?

[kazoolaw]

Argument flaw dissected: it is a common tactic to totally misstate the other side's point and then argue against a point that was never made. Sometimes it is combined with an attempt to divert with an entirely off-target appeal, in this case anti religious sentiment.
Understand that there is no need to respond to this tactic by engaging with its false premise. Simply note how far off-target the comment is, ignore it, and move on.

[TSherbs]

Are there user fees?

There were cities in 2019-2020 still waiting from 2016.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/campa...b0304a120c9a1c

I have no idea how you collect this, especially from Trump.

[kazoolaw]

Many people think that winning a judgment in court means the money falls in your lap.
Just the first step. If there is no insurance coverage [and many's the fight whether there is or not] then you have to find assets to collect from. There is a sub-specialty of protecting assets from collection. And then there is the specter of bankruptcy.
Oh, do you think Don signed for anything as an individual?

[Chuck Naill]

This is a good op-ed.
"As Britain was fighting for its life in 1940, much of America was still uncertain as to what, if anything, the moment demanded of it. Churchill laid out the choice: sunlit uplands, or the abyss. It remains our choice today.

Happy holidays."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/20/o...smid=share-url

[TSherbs]

In the Whitmer plot, Fox sentencing is today, Croft is tomorrow. They can get life, but I don't think so. 20-30 years?

[TSherbs]

Fox gets 16 years.

[Chuck Naill]

Sad to see a life wasted because of a huckster.

[TSherbs]

Michigan has had its own special brand of fringe groups, predating Trumpism. They home-grow anti-gov extremists there. We got a few in Maine, too. But they have been less threatening and violent (so far).

[TSherbs]

Croft: 19.5 years

[Chuck Naill]

wow!!

I have read many op-eds about the grievance some Americans feel or that they feel their country is being taken over, that they are losing freedoms. Does anyone here feel as though their rights are being compromised by liberals? If so, in what way?

Today the idea of cruelty was mentioned in my communications. If someone de-friends someone, or they get canceled in some manner, the other person is cruel. What if the person decides to have nothing to do with that person? Is it cruel to make the decision to abandon the relationship? I do not think it does.

[TSherbs]

Croft apparently also has had some mental health and substance abuse issues. A complicated spiral downward, no doubt.

[TSherbs]

Making America Tidy Again:

The Hill: Hutchinson says Meadows burned documents during transition.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ng-transition/

Just a little (White) house cleaning, I'm sure....

[dneal]

Making America Tidy Again:

The Hill: Hutchinson says Meadows burned documents during transition.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ng-transition/

Just a little (White) house cleaning, I'm sure....

That the same one who said Trump lunged for the steering wheel of "the beast"?

You guys do love your petty gossip.

Now do Hunter and 10% for the big guy...