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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Who does he have discussion with?
    He used to try with you. Now he just rants or posts links. Have you ever tried having a discussion with him where you don't sound like you think he's stupid for having his perspectives? He is as bright as you. Maybe take some time to reconsider your ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Who does he have discussion with?
    He used to try with you. Now he just rants or posts links. Have you ever tried having a discussion with him where you don't sound like you think he's stupid for having his perspectives? He is as bright as you. Maybe take some time to reconsider your ways.
    Many times, as have you. He gets pissy when you show how his hare-brained ideas are ridiculous, as do you.

    Anyone who ignores cartoon pornography in schools and tries to shift to banning a Mark Twain book is not a particularly bright person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Who does he have discussion with?
    He used to try with you. Now he just rants or posts links. Have you ever tried having a discussion with him where you don't sound like you think he's stupid for having his perspectives? He is as bright as you. Maybe take some time to reconsider your ways.
    Many times, as have you. He gets pissy when you show how his hare-brained ideas are ridiculous, as do you.

    Anyone who ignores cartoon pornography in schools and tries to shift to banning a Mark Twain book is not a particularly bright person.
    Judging by the tone of your reply, I am encouraged that you might be open to having discussions with him. The last thing I want is someone just agreeing with me, and perhaps he is the same. It seems that there are only five of us routinily posting. Let's try to be as civil as possible and if we don't, give each other a pass.
    “He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah 6:8

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    Nope. I’ve given you stooges more than enough opportunities.
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    Interesting Politico article on the effort "from a corner of the internet" (but now broadening a bit) to resurrect the reputation of Richard Nixon as a template for how to spin in a positive way the legacy and reputation of Donald Trump (a more daunting task). Roger Stone, I'm sure, needs no convincing.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...tives-00131637

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Jury awards $148 million in compensation and and other damages from Giuliani to the Georgia election workers for defamation. Damn! $75 million in punitive damages alone!

    That's a lot of zeros in the spelling of "consequences."
    In fact, due to Giuliani's repeated refusals to comply with requests for documents, the judge is letting the plaintiffs go after the judgment money immediately (usually there is a 30-day delay, according to this article):

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/20/polit...ers/index.html

    And they have filed another defamation suit, because he continues to make public defamatory remarks similar to the ones that he was just found liable for. The old cur doesn't seem to be open to learning and change.

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    And now a possible impeachment inquiry against Mayorkas?

    What planet is this?

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    Bulletin: left winger stunned conservatives learn rules of his game and earn 3.2 million bonus points in 2023 alone.

    https://homeland.house.gov/2023/10/2...s%20nationwide.


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    A Constitutional argument against impeachment of Mayorkas (and other such situations): https://wapo.st/47t7yB8

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    Trump ordered to pay $400k to NYT for its legal fees in dismissed law suit:

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-ord...failed-lawsuit

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    How's that Fani Willis thing working out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    How's that Fani Willis thing working out?
    No updates in the NYT or WashPost?

    Curious.
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    Walt Whitman, in 1871, was interested in a greater America. See if any of this has resonance today:

    From Democratic Vistas

    I say we had best look our times and lands searchingly in the face, like a physician diagnosing some deep disease. Never was there, perhaps, more hollowness at heart than at present, and here in the United States. Genuine belief seems to have left us. The underlying principles of the States are not honestly believ’d in, (for all this hectic glow, and these melo-​dramatic screamings,) nor is humanity itself believ’d in. What penetrating eye does not everywhere see through the mask? The spectacle is appaling. We live in an atmosphere of hypocrisy throughout. The men believe not in the women, nor the women in the men. A scornful superciliousness rules in literature. The aim of all the littérateurs is to find something to make fun of. A lot of churches, sects, &c., the most dismal phantasms I know, usurp the name of religion. Conversation is a mass of badinage. From deceit in the spirit, the mother of all false deeds, the offspring is already incalculable. An acute and candid person, in the revenue department in Washington, who is led by the course of his employment to regularly visit the cities, north, south and west, to investigate frauds, has talk’d much with me about his discoveries. The depravity of the business classes of our country is not less than has been supposed, but infinitely greater. The official services of America, national, state, and municipal, in all their branches and departments, except the judiciary, are saturated in corruption, bribery, falsehood, mal-​administration; and the judiciary is tainted. The great cities reek with respectable as much as non-​respectable robbery and scoundrelism. In fashionable life, flippancy, tepid amours, weak infidelism, small aims, or no aims at all, only to kill time. In business, (this all-​devouring modern word, business,) the one sole object is, by any means, pecuniary gain. The magician’s serpent in the fable ate up all the other serpents; and money-​making is our magician’s serpent, remaining today sole master of the field. The best class we show, is but a mob of fashionably dress’d speculators and vulgarians. True, indeed, behind this fantastic farce, enacted on the visible stage of society, solid things and stupendous labors are to be discover’d, existing crudely and going on in the background, to advance and tell themselves in time. Yet the truths are none the less terrible. I say that our New World democracy, however great a success in uplifting the masses out of their sloughs, in materialistic development, products, and in a certain highly-​deceptive superficial popular intellectuality, is, so far, an almost complete failure in its social aspects, and in really grand religious, moral, literary, and esthetic results. In vain do we march with unprecedented strides to empire so colossal, outvying the antique, beyond Alexander’s, beyond the proudest sway of Rome. In vain have we annex’d Texas, California, Alaska, and reach north for Canada and south for Cuba. It is as if we were somehow being endow’d with a vast and more and more thoroughly-​appointed body, and then left with little or no soul.

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    I wonder if there's a $600,000 update on Fani Willis...
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