Was there a time in Parker's history where the Centennials were same size as Inters ?

[lowks]

The background of this question came from here:

https://youtu.be/zJ6L8uX7JzU

Essentially I bought this Duofold from a seller which he said was a centennial. Not knowing better I accepted the pen without checking and only after going home and going online I noticed my pen is very much smaller than the real Centennial. The seller was adamant his is the real deal, even after the conversation below:



Is there such a thing ? Was there ever a time where the Centennials came in a smaller form as claimed by this seller ? The name of the seller has been edited out of the picture.

[jar]

Not that I am aware of but then I may well be wrong. IIRC when that iteration of the Duofold came out it was in two sizes, the Centennial and the International.

[Chrissy]

I agree with jar. There were two versions of the modern Duofold. Centennial and International.

[proteus]

There are two sizes of this Centennial pen.

[jar]

There are two sizes of this Centennial pen.

The one your arrow is pointing to is the Demi. The top is the Duofold Centennial, next is the Duofold International and your arrow points to the Duofold Demi.

But the Centennial is only the top pen.

[franzdimson]

I am far from an expert in these matters. But I have 2 Duofold Centennials (Mark I and Mark II), and an International Mark II.

The black Duofold above the green one looks to be like a Mark II Duofold which is slightly smaller than the Mark I Duofold.

I believe the nib will tell you if it's a Centennial or International.

Any possibility of posting a photo of both pens side by side and not cut off?


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[lowks]

This a picture of the pens side by side. Can someone let me know how to tell from the nibs ?

[Chrissy]

The two nibs in your picture are the same, so you can't tell from those two nibs. I actually can't see much of a difference between the two pens in that picture. If you remove the posted caps and place the pens side by side full length, are they the same length? They look like they are at least the same girth from here.

[lowks]

The two nibs in your picture are the same, so you can't tell from those two nibs. I actually can't see much of a difference between the two pens in that picture. If you remove the posted caps and place the pens side by side full length, are they the same length? They look like they are at least the same girth from here.

Same girth same length. Confirmed with calipers

[jar]

The two nibs in your picture are the same, so you can't tell from those two nibs. I actually can't see much of a difference between the two pens in that picture. If you remove the posted caps and place the pens side by side full length, are they the same length? They look like they are at least the same girth from here.

Same girth same length. Confirmed with calipers

Both the same model, but that does not say whether it is the Centennial, International or Demi, just that they are the same model.

[Chrissy]

The two nibs in your picture are the same, so you can't tell from those two nibs. I actually can't see much of a difference between the two pens in that picture. If you remove the posted caps and place the pens side by side full length, are they the same length? They look like they are at least the same girth from here.

Same girth same length. Confirmed with calipers

Both the same model, but that does not say whether it is the Centennial, International or Demi, just that they are the same model.

True enough.

[proteus]

lowks,

Are you able to measure your pen in mm.

Closed ( Cap on )

Open ( Cap off )

If you can, I will tell you without a doubt if it is a Centennial

[lowks]

Okay here goes (for the green one, the pen in question):

Cap on: 13.1 cm
Cap off: 12.4 cm

lowks,

Are you able to measure your pen in mm.

Closed ( Cap on )

Open ( Cap off )

If you can, I will tell you without a doubt if it is a Centennial

[Farmboy]

Do the caps interchange?

[lowks]

Yes

[Chrissy]

My Centennial measures 13.6cm cap on.

[jar]

A question.

Is the pen in question the one that was converted from a rollerball?

[lowks]

A question.

Is the pen in question the one that was converted from a rollerball?

No its not

[proteus]

There are 4 variations of this pen

The larger Centennial Pen closed measures 137mm

There are also long and short cap clip versions of the larger version. ( photograph attached - the top two )

Personally I think your pen is a Centennial

[lowks]

Just wondering, how do you then differentiate between the International and Centennial ?