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    The blue Tibaldi's transparency is phenomenal! Wow!

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    For today, I have a pair of pens made by Tibaldi. This would be the first Tibaldi. The original Tibaldi went out of business in 60's. They were revived in the nineties and sold pens that honored the original Tibaldi pens. That went under and was revived by the group that owns Montegrappa.

    The two pens are Tibaldi Trasparente in medium size. One cannot overlook the influence of Parker on the Italian pen industry. The Parker Vacumatic created a craze for pens with transparent bodies and non-sac filling systems. Almost all major Italian companies made pens that had transparent barrels. The Omas Lucens and Extra Lucens and the Aurora Optima come to mind. These pens came out in the mid-late 30's and are some of my favorite vintage Italian pens albeit they also come with a high price tag.









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    What beauties! I love the styling of the clip.
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    What beauties! I love the styling of the clip.
    Almost a Parker Pelikan if you squint really really hard.
    Fantastic looking pens.

    That Omas 361 is gorgeous it looks like it is made of that water marked silk material.

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    Hi AltecGreen,
    Lovely pens. Do you have a favorite celluloid pattern? Are there any of the vintage Italian brands and/or models that you find a greater liking towards? Looking forward to seeing more of the collection.

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    No favorite pattern. They all have their special qualities. I tend to focus on Columbus and Omas but have pens from a number of companies.

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    For today since time is short, I have an Ancora #4 buttonfiller. Ancora is one of the five big Italian pen companies from the golden age to still survive today . As of a few years ago, Ancora was still making their own nibs so that already sets them apart.

    The Ancora buttonfillers and lever fillers were the medium budget pens in the Ancora range in the 1930's. They were below the faceted Damas and the round Maximas. The #4 was the large senior sized pen in the line. The shape of this pen is classic Italian; a shape duplicated by many of the great Italian pen makers. This is the shape I have in mind when I think of an Italian pen. Perfect balance and grace. This is one of the few vintage Italians in my collection that I ink up and use.

    The celluloid is called oriental azure or something like that. It has deep rich blue color set off by veins of gold. Quite elegant and one of my favorites.







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    Quote Originally Posted by AltecGreen View Post
    ... This is the shape I have in mind when I think of an Italian pen....
    Agree 100%. And it has the same three slender cap rings that make the Omas MoMA so special. Stunning pen!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltecGreen View Post
    For today since time is short, I have an Ancora #4 buttonfiller. Ancora is one of the five big Italian pen companies from the golden age to still survive today . As of a few years ago, Ancora was still making their own nibs so that already sets them apart.

    The Ancora buttonfillers and lever fillers were the medium budget pens in the Ancora range in the 1930's. They were below the faceted Damas and the round Maximas. The #4 was the large senior sized pen in the line. The shape of this pen is classic Italian; a shape duplicated by many of the great Italian pen makers. This is the shape I have in mind when I think of an Italian pen. Perfect balance and grace. This is one of the few vintage Italians in my collection that I ink up and use.

    The celluloid is called oriental azure or something like that. It has deep rich blue color set off by veins of gold. Quite elegant and one of my favorites.



    That celluloid is awesome!
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    The Ancora #4 buttonfiller is another beautiful pen. Plus that little roller on the clip looks fascinating.
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    I hate to gush and interrupt the flow of a tread, but the workmanship of these just can't be
    left without comment.

    Just superb.

    When you consider some of what was being offered in this country after the Depression,
    the plating, threads, fit, design and materials are simply remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanDeM View Post
    I hate to gush and interrupt the flow of a tread, but the workmanship of these just can't be
    left without comment.

    Just superb.

    When you consider some of what was being offered in this country after the Depression,
    the plating, threads, fit, design and materials are simply remarkable.
    Good point. Very few of the pens I have were made during a time of economic strength. Most were made in the 1930's which included the beginning of WWII, a few are wartime pens, and many were made only a few years after the war ended. I buy very few vintage Italian pens after 1952.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanDeM View Post
    I hate to gush and interrupt the flow of a tread, but the workmanship of these just can't be
    left without comment.

    Just superb.

    When you consider some of what was being offered in this country after the Depression,
    the plating, threads, fit, design and materials are simply remarkable.
    Yes. It is funny that some of the nicest pens were made in one of the most depressed times.
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    In keeping with yesterday's theme of large size round pens in gorgeous celluloid, I present today a senior sized Montegrappa Extra (ca. 1930's?). If you compare this Montegrappa and yesterdays Ancora, you can see the similarity in form. Classic Italian. This pen has a difference. The pen has a twist fill mechanism. It's basically a sac filler where the sac is depressed by twisting the rear knob. You do tend to find interesting variations on sac filling in vintage Italian pens. I'll get back to this point when I show a pen with a spoon filler.

    On a side note. Montegrappa was one of the big five Italian pen companies and exist to this day. Montegrappa was well known for mass production and making pens for other companies. They don't seem to have the same cachet as the other companies I've presented so far. I don't know any Italian pen collectors (at least in the US) that are too keen on Montegrappa. They certainly are not something I focus on. Nonetheless, the pens are still gorgeous.

    This pen attracts dust like no other.



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    Will this get better with every new pen you present?

    Thanks for your note on Montegrappa. Their style was quite different from the current one.


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    I've yet to come across a vintage Montegrappa in the wild here in the US. They are lovely pens though.
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    Awesome thread. Loving it! Thanks!

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    Fantastic thread, Ricky -- very informative. Thanks for doing this!

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    Will this get better with every new pen you present?
    Just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by peterpen53 View Post
    Will this get better with every new pen you present?
    Just wait.
    As stated before:

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    ... since I like looking at those vintage Italians very much, I will quietly sit back and enjoy what's coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpen53 View Post
    Will this get better with every new pen you present?

    Thanks for your note on Montegrappa. Their style was quite different from the current one.
    Montegrappa, Tibaldi, and Ancora have definitely change their current styling from their glorious past. Aurora has also but to a lesser degree. Columbus doesn't even play in the upper echelons anymore. Omas still has some ties to their past.

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