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    Default Exotic 3rd Tier Plastics

    Years ago I chanced upon a thread where people were posting photos of interesting celluloid patterns from third tier brands. Since then I've been adding them to my collection whenever one catches my eye for the right price. Stainless steel nibs, thin plating and plastics, but the patterns and colors can be truly stunning!



    1. Signet bulb filler (grey marble from Parker, Sheaffer, and Eversharp)
    2-4. Eberhard Faber Permapoint
    5. Commander
    6-7. Diamond Point (Parker Royal Challenger plastic)
    8-9. Epenco
    10. Colby
    11. marked 'A' on the clip and lever (forgot which brand this is - American?)
    12. No-name (in a pattern I've consecrated 'fish guts')

    So what are your 3rd-tier jewels?
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    Default Re: Exotic 3rd Tier Plastics

    That Colby is beautiful...in a very particular kind of way.

    Thank you for sharing!

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    Default Re: Exotic 3rd Tier Plastics

    ... I now NEED to own a Eberhard Faber Permapoint... thank you...

    They are really pretty pens and I can see the allure!

    Also, BayesianPrior is so right about that Colby! amazing material.
    Does it have depth (chatoyance as the cool kids say) or is it flat?
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    Default Re: Exotic 3rd Tier Plastics

    I have the green Eberhardt Faber Permapoint. Stunning steel nib, of great smoothness.

    I love that No Name with the "fish guts" pattern. Really beautiful.

    Superbe collection!

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    Default Re: Exotic 3rd Tier Plastics

    Quote Originally Posted by popcod View Post
    12. No-name (in a pattern I've consecrated 'fish guts')
    And here I was thinking "autumn leaves".

    Thanks for sharing, as they say.

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    Stunning indeed! Nice to see one can get great celluloid patterns in pens that don't cost a lot.

    Maybe that Colby pattern is "Bay City Roller"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyo View Post
    Also, BayesianPrior is so right about that Colby! amazing material.
    Does it have depth (chatoyance as the cool kids say) or is it flat?
    Not so much more or less the chatoyance of a plaid shirt . . . in polyester perhaps, lending support to kevmid's suggestion! A striking example of mid-century fashion, all the same!

    Thanks for all the kind comments, everyone. The Pemapoints feel more substantial than many of the others. Their iridium tipped, steel nibs really do rival Esterbrook's in terms of their smoothness noted by fountainpagan. But the nickel washed(?) trim is extremely thin, tough to find clean. A great value nonetheless. And I'm not sure I've seen the particular snakeskin pattern they used on any other pens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grainweevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by popcod View Post
    12. No-name (in a pattern I've consecrated 'fish guts')
    And here I was thinking "autumn leaves".
    A more charming appellation to be sure! This plastic appears to have been used by several different 3rd/4th tier manufacturers. I've often wondered whether it was intentionally patterned or simply cobbled together from discounted scraps. I still need to clean it up, but I can already tell that this one does have a surprising depth and "chatoyance" (in the parlance of the cool kids ).
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    Excellent choice for a thread! I'm away from home but will try to add a group shot when I get back. For now, here's a set I picked up a couple years ago that is vibrant, and completely no-name, not a single identifying mark or characteristic.

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    As Jon said, a great topic to discuss. Exotic Beauty is a good phrase to describe what we have here.

    It never ceases to amaze me that today we can still find excellent condition samples of pen materials that is just mesmerizing despite their age.

    Here's one I found at the pen show last weekend:



    Because the pen has no name or brand, I just call it "Fire and Coal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    For now, here's a set I picked up a couple years ago that is vibrant, and completely no-name, not a single identifying mark or characteristic.
    Beautiful! The quality of this set puts me in mind of a rebadged Big Four pen. The lever is nicer than the generic job on all the pens I posted and the celluloid reminds me of a Mabie Todd/Swan. What an interesting ensemble!

    penwash: that's a great variation on the grey marble theme never seen that color combination before. Was this the Commonwealth pen show in Massachusetts? I nearly attended it for the first time, but something came up. How's the vintage selection there? Long Island is the only show I've managed to make it to, but I've been meaning to venture farther out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popcod View Post
    penwash: that's a great variation on the grey marble theme never seen that color combination before. Was this the Commonwealth pen show in Massachusetts? I nearly attended it for the first time, but something came up. How's the vintage selection there? Long Island is the only show I've managed to make it to, but I've been meaning to venture farther out.
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    Love these pens. No names but sturdy and wonderful patterns. Have a couple myself and will post pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by popcod View Post
    Years ago I chanced upon a thread where people were posting photos of interesting celluloid patterns from third tier brands. Since then I've been adding them to my collection whenever one catches my eye for the right price. Stainless steel nibs, thin plating and plastics, but the patterns and colors can be truly stunning!



    1. Signet bulb filler (grey marble from Parker, Sheaffer, and Eversharp)
    2-4. Eberhard Faber Permapoint
    5. Commander
    6-7. Diamond Point (Parker Royal Challenger plastic)
    8-9. Epenco
    10. Colby
    11. marked 'A' on the clip and lever (forgot which brand this is - American?)
    12. No-name (in a pattern I've consecrated 'fish guts')

    So what are your 3rd-tier jewels?
    I can start by adding a couple of color variants to your effort.



    Permapoint in Burgundy and a Diamond Point set in Red.

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