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    Default Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    Hi All,

    I am wondering what the difference is between the Pilot Falcon FE-18SR-RSF and the FE-25SR-RSF SKU's?

    Both of these are Soft Fine nibs, but what is the meaning of the '18' and the '25'?

    Appreciate any links or explanation that explain it.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    18 is the resin version, 25 is the metal.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote View Post
    18 is the resin version, 25 is the metal.
    Ah... Thank you

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Driften View Post
    One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.
    I bought this resin Version and wating for the delivary. I am now a bit disappointed as it dosenot take the Con-70. (70m) Ink. But It take Con-50 (50m) ink. which is less.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driften View Post
    One thing to remember is the metal version can take the con-70 converter and the resin one can not. At least so I have read.
    I bought this resin Version and wating for the delivary. I am now a bit disappointed as it dosenot take the Con-70. (70m) Ink. But It take Con-50 (50m) ink. which is less.
    You can always refill a cartridge. That will hold more then the con-40/con-50. Also you might be able to find some con-20 squeeze converters those also hold more then a con-50.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    For anyone interested (Cyril?) -- Driften's suggestion to use a cartridge may sound disappointing at first... but there's another advantage of the resin Falcon over the Metal:

    I have both, and while some people like the heaviness of the metal Falcon I find it to be somewhat fatiguing. I can write and draw for hours with no fatigue with a 10g resin Falcon. Amazing. The metal Falcon is gorgeous but hurts my hand after a while and the balance is such that I have to hold it very far back, posted, to be comfortable.

    Refilling cartridges is a little annoying -- but if we could somehow come up with some kind of plug to reseal a Pilot Cartridge we could make a batch of 10 and arguably be better off than having to refill a con-70!

    JonSzanto once suggested hot glue to seal a cartridge. This works great for universal cartridges but unfortunately Pilot carts have a very wide hole and the hot glue becomes a mess. But maybe there's a rubber stopper which could seal them up without expanding the plastic of the cartridge opening.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    The joy of Pilot cartridges is they come with a plug, or rather a disk, that can be reused to reseal them. They're, I think, the only ones that do. Just fish it out of the empty cart, refill same, then pop the disk back in to reseal. Here's a vid that conveys the gist.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    Wow. People trust that to reseal? I always removed that disc assuming the re-seal wouldn't be sound...

    I was hoping for something more similar to a cork shaped insert that I could just push in. But I'll try it with that rotating disc, as you suggest. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    There's a video showing how to refill and re-seal a Pilot cartridge... and I thought the link was in this thread. Roops!

    I have only two resin Falcons/Elabos... and I like them very much. SEF, both. That's all I wanted to say. *Smiley face*
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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    I just received a resin Elabo - SEF. Stand by (well, go ahead and have a seat because I have to use it for a few days/weeks before I can give an honest review) for a review. First impression? I like it even if it is a little lighter than I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkyardSam View Post
    Wow. People trust that to reseal? I always removed that disc assuming the re-seal wouldn't be sound...

    I was hoping for something more similar to a cork shaped insert that I could just push in. But I'll try it with that rotating disc, as you suggest. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Pilot Elabo (Falcon) Difference?

    I, too, felt that the metal falcon felt a bit heavy when drawing for extended periods. I'm considering getting a resin falcon because of how great the nib was for drawing.

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