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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    Hi Chissy,

    Firstly, I must reiterate others' praise for your contributions, you are a valued member and would certainly be missed; indeed, i'd go so far as to say the forum wouldn't be the same without you.

    However... I am extremely troubled by the deletion of a post which posed the question of whether or not you might be professionally associated with the Diamine company.
    To me, that is FPN behaviour and one of the main reasons I exclusively limit my interest to this site and not that one.
    Thanks. The post was deleted because the "member" who posted it was merely another brand new registration, at that moment, from the same troll. Zippy & Bungle...as in Rainbow?
    That is the kind of inflammatory question that trolls deliberately ask. I wouldn't let it trouble you because you know I'm not the owner of the Diamine Company. I wish......
    It would appear that at least we can now guess that at least one of the trolls is British as that's a CBBC TV show.
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    I always liked Rainbow. It'll never be the same for me again. Zippy and Bungle trolls? Who would have guessed?
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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    It would appear that at least we can now guess that at least one of the trolls is British as that's a CBBC TV show.
    Of course, the person didn't ask if you owned Diamine but rather if you were professionally associated; as in working for them as employee or contractor. Since your reviews pretty much deal with those features that can be evidenced I'm not at all sure how it would be a relevant issue anyway unless you took a pro-Diamine and anti-Everything else position Else position which you have not done.

    But remember CBBC is aimed at the audience I mentioned in Message #2; the kiddies at the little table. Perhaps if you put one of his posts up on the refrigerator he would be dead chuffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    I always liked Rainbow. It'll never be the same for me again.
    Ashes to Ashes did that to me years ago. I can only be grateful they didn't use Bod or The Flumps.

    Anyway, fwiw, Rainbow was on ITV, not BBC. Not important, but wildly more important than wasting all this energy and thread on such persons as earn the label "troll", imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grainweevil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    I always liked Rainbow. It'll never be the same for me again.
    Ashes to Ashes did that to me years ago. I can only be grateful they didn't use Bod or The Flumps.

    Anyway, fwiw, Rainbow was on ITV, not BBC. Not important, but wildly more important than wasting all this energy and thread on such persons as earn the label "troll", imo.
    Very true.
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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Oooh sorry. I didn't realise that Rainbow wasn't BBC Not that it was a show I watched.

    FWIW I see today in the Radio Times that Ashes to Ashes is starting a rerun tonight on Drama at 8 o'clock. I spotted it earlier today.
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    Sorry guys, but what evidence exactly is there that 'Bungle' was a troll?

    I can understand there is a possible connection (if you care to see it) between their name and another poster who has been judged to be a troll, but otherwise it would seem as though you are being rather hypocritical - abusing another new member for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    Sorry guys, but what evidence exactly is there that 'Bungle' was a troll?

    I can understand there is a possible connection (if you care to see it) between their name and another poster who has been judged to be a troll, but otherwise it would seem as though you are being rather hypocritical - abusing another new member for no good reason.
    Past history and behavior.

    The deal is that, here on FPG, we pretty much have to clean up the joint on our own. The owner will often respond if posts are reported for ill behavior but it isn't a given. With no active mods, it falls upon the community to look at posting patterns and content to ascertain whether remarks are done with valid purpose or if they seem to be simply for the activity of causing issues. I didn't follow that thread in-depth but when new members jump into a rather innocuous thread and start behaving in an insulting manner, it isn't a giant leap of concept to understand the psychology involved. On balance, the FPG community is exceedingly tolerant and allows a lot of dissent. Sometimes, though, the bullshit meter has it's needles pinned to the right and one simply needs to call it. I think this was the case here. Others may feel different, as is their right.
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    "Maybe Chrissy is the Director/owner of Diamine?" seemed like a fairly innocuous comment to me, certainly not insulting; there is no denying 'Chrissy' could be an abbreviation of Diamine's director's first name and Chrissy publicly declares her location for this forum as Berkshire which was, until recently, where Diamine had their business address registered - so, wtf..?

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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Personally I hope you do not leave. I find your ink reviews to very through and very helpful. That will always be one person that wants to spoil it for others. That person desires to have attention with negative thoughts to stir discontentment,


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    Sorry guys, but what evidence exactly is there that 'Bungle' was a troll?

    I can understand there is a possible connection (if you care to see it) between their name and another poster who has been judged to be a troll, but otherwise it would seem as though you are being rather hypocritical - abusing another new member for no good reason.
    One good reason is that the only "Bungle" I am aware of is the character in Rainbow who is the partner of Zippy and George.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    "Maybe Chrissy is the Director/owner of Diamine?" seemed like a fairly innocuous comment to me, certainly not insulting; there is no denying 'Chrissy' could be an abbreviation of Diamine's director's first name and Chrissy publicly declares her location for this forum as Berkshire which was, until recently, where Diamine had their business address registered - so, wtf..?
    There are quite a few people in Berkshire, many of whom may share the name. If she actually is either the owner or a director of Diamine she really isn't doing her company any good by giving other ink manufacturers equal time and praise.
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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Of course Chrissy may just like their inks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    "Maybe Chrissy is the Director/owner of Diamine?" seemed like a fairly innocuous comment to me, certainly not insulting; there is no denying 'Chrissy' could be an abbreviation of Diamine's director's first name and Chrissy publicly declares her location for this forum as Berkshire which was, until recently, where Diamine had their business address registered - so, wtf..?
    Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, the head of a major ink manufacturer has been reviewing inks online in at least two public forums for *years*, of course that is a perfectly reasonable extrapolation from a name.

    As if.

    BTW, "Are you fucking kidding me?" seems like a fairly innocuous comment to me. YMMV.
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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    "Maybe Chrissy is the Director/owner of Diamine?" seemed like a fairly innocuous comment to me, certainly not insulting; there is no denying 'Chrissy' could be an abbreviation of Diamine's director's first name and Chrissy publicly declares her location for this forum as Berkshire which was, until recently, where Diamine had their business address registered - so, wtf..?
    Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, the head of a major ink manufacturer has been reviewing inks online in at least two public forums for *years*, of course that is a perfectly reasonable extrapolation from a name.

    As if.

    BTW, "Are you fucking kidding me?" seems like a fairly innocuous comment to me. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    BTW, "Are you fucking kidding me?" seems like a fairly innocuous comment to me. YMMV.
    OK, that made me laugh. I seem to have missed all the fun. The offending posts have been removed, have they not? Or did I look at the wrong thread?
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    Default Re: A Dilemma? What to do for the best?

    I can't believe what I'm seeing on this thread. SIR: Are you being serious or is this some sort of a wind-up?

    Bungle was not a new member but a new registration from the same troll. I already gave you this information and I did not tell you a lie. The site owner decided that fact, based on all of the evidence that he had in front of him. So if you have an argument about that I suggest you take it up with him rather than throwing wild accusations around.

    I'm not even going to dignify anything to do with the other wild accusation about Diamine with any other answers apart from the fact that the Diamine factory is in Liverpool. I didn't lie to you when I answered that before either.

    I can't believe you are actually seriously discussing this. Those trolls are sitting there at their little kiddies table laughing their socks off at you because they've wound you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw52 View Post
    Personally I hope you do not leave. I find your ink reviews to very through and very helpful. That will always be one person that wants to spoil it for others. That person desires to have attention with negative thoughts to stir discontentment,
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansdown View Post
    I would wager that there are quite a few members like myself who post rarely but read regularly. I always enjoy your ink reviews and make it a habit to check if you have a review of an ink before I try it. Keep up the good reviews and ignore trolls!


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    What they said! Thank you for all your work Chris's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShugPug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hansdown View Post
    I would wager that there are quite a few members like myself who post rarely but read regularly. I always enjoy your ink reviews and make it a habit to check if you have a review of an ink before I try it. Keep up the good reviews and ignore trolls!


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    What they said! Thank you for all your work Chris's!
    Cheers. Posting rarely and reading regularly sounds like a good plan.

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