What Does One Do with a Pelikan M800 IB Stock Nib and What about M800 14K Nibs?

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@peterpen53:

I love your handwriting!!!!!!

I used to write like that but I found it takes alot of time. My last italic nib bit the dust and I haven't written like that in years. Now my writing is a bit sloppy and fast, but I intend to write like that again, now that I have a TWSBI mini 1.1 stub and an OB 146 on the way.

[peterpen53]

Hi again, Peterpen, and thank you for your post and sample!

The sample is incredibly helpful! It does seem that the modern 3B is pretty round. There is a touch of line variation, but not too much.

I'm struck by how the BB and the IB are very similar. My understanding had been that the BB is about a 1mm tip and the IB a 1.5mm.

Right now, I think that I am leaning towards the BB.


The other thing you said really struck me. I think you are saying this?: that when I order my pen, the shop may have different versions (newer and older) of the same nib size in stock, and that if I tell them I want a BB with as much line variation as possible, they may be able to accommodate me?

I hadn't realized this was a possibility. Are there some shops that it would be better to order from, with this in mind?

Thanks so much for your help as I wander through this maze!

Chris

Of course there's no guarantee, but you can always try. Shop around! The round BB/3B's have not been around that long, if you want to find an older one you should do it now. And Pelikan nibs can be exchanged in a minute so a seller should not have any problem with matching the pen and nib that you want.

@peterpen53:

I love your handwriting!!!!!!

I used to write like that but I found it takes alot of time. My last italic nib bit the dust and I haven't written like that in years. Now my writing is a bit sloppy and fast, but I intend to write like that again, now that I have a TWSBI mini 1.1 stub and an OB 146 on the way.

Thank you! And you can always write in that style with a round nib, you know. I've been known to do it with a rollerball. But the pens you're getting should help.
I would agree that true italics take some more attention to your grip and writing angle, but the nibs I'm using don't really slow me down.

[I like mango pudding]

Thank you! And you can always write in that style with a round nib, you know. I've been known to do it with a rollerball. But the pens you're getting should help.
I would agree that true italics take some more attention to your grip and writing angle, but the nibs I'm using don't really slow me down.

Yes, thank you. I have tried writing like that and do write like that sometimes but it does take much more time and never does come out the way I want it to with my rollerball, or even a fine tipped felt pen.
When I had my italic nib, the letters just flowed out naturally. I have to work at it with the rollerball or felt tip pen. I have to write fast in my job so taking the time to perfectly form my letters is not an option I have. When I do have time to write, it looks much better, but still not as good as yours.

[alc3261]

I've not tried the IB but seeing these writing samples I think I'd like to.
I've got EF, F and M Pelikan nibs.

[cnjackson]

Of course there's no guarantee, but you can always try. Shop around! The round BB/3B's have not been around that long, if you want to find an older one you should do it now. And Pelikan nibs can be exchanged in a minute so a seller should not have any problem with matching the pen and nib that you want.

Thanks again, Peterpen--I think I will start to explore a bit by getting in contact with some of the usual sellers.

Thanks for the help!

Chris

[cnjackson]

OK--I had a brainstorm this morning: before I commit to a Pelikan IB nib (or one its large brethren), I will try out a Lamy and a TWSBI 1.5 stub--one of each--to put on my Safari and 540 I already have. This will give me a chance to see how I write with a somewhat large stub (I know it won't be the same as an M800, but it's a trial run...). And if I love it, then I'll seriously consider the IB!

Just placed an order with Goulet--and I'll let everyone know what happens!

C

[Valek]

Hi everyone. New to the forums here.

I was lucky enough to find a current thread that is relevant to my current search.

I was thinking of purchasing a Pelikan M800 in IB but I'm worried it might be too broad and not especially easy to write with. I currently use a waterman Carene (my only fountain pen) in Fine. I wanted a pen with a wider line and more character but I am worried the 1.5mm IB that Niche pens offers (I'm in the UK and will not order from states as the prices are high and 20% import tax on top is ridiculous).

I would be happier with a 1.1mm Italic but unfortunately without getting a custom one done I don't think I can get a hold of one. The M800 is expensive enough as it is without having a regrind done.

I was hesitating between an IB 1.5mm or a standard B or BB depending how wide they are. Do you have any advice?

[I like mango pudding]

I have an OB and a 1.1stubby and both nib widths appear to be about the same. Writing samples show it very similar. The 1.1 stubby has finer lines on the cross / upstroke than the OB, but other than that, it's pretty much the same.