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    I love red inks, and Diamine Red Dragon has just won a place in my top three. I’ve had a lot of experience with J. Herbin, Iroshizuku, and Noodler’s inks, but, up until recently, had no experience with Diamine inks. I’d read many flattering things about them online, so I figured that I should give them a shot. The lovely folks at Diamine were nice enough to send over six bottles for review, and Red Dragon is the first of them.



    To appeal to my tastes, an ink brand has to possess a certain set of qualities. They need to have bold, interesting colors with moderate to good shading; they should be resistant to feathering; and they need to be quick to dry on the paper I most often use them with. Noodler’s inks are often bold and interesting, but take forever to dry on higher quality paper. J Herbin inks possess tremendous shading potential, but are often watery and prone to feathering. Thus far, Diamine seems to possess all of the qualities I've mentioned.

    Red Dragon is a newly released color from Diamine – one that is just beginning to show up in US retailers. It is a fantastic orange red (as opposed to a pink red or purple red) with earthy overtones. It is aptly named, as it is bold and powerful, yet dignified in character. It is slightly darker than J Herbin 1670 – which I would describe as its closest competitor – and is similarly highly saturated. It has a moderate level of shading – enough to be appealing to those who like shading, but not so much to be distracting to those who prefer a solid line.

    This ink has a nice level of readability. It’s not a blindingly bright red, like J Herbin Rouge Caroubier. Rather, it is pleasant to read on both bright white and off white paper, which makes it easy to use for daily writing. Like most red inks, it’s probably not appropriate for conservative business use, but it is unlikely to offend anyone. In such settings, it could easily be used for highlighting or proofing.

    The drying time for Red Dragon was quite acceptable. On the slow-drying Rhodia paper, it was dry to the touch at eight seconds. On garden-variety copier paper, it dried slightly more quickly at six seconds.

    Show-though was noticeable on Moleskine journal paper and minimal on Rhodia paper, but in neither case did I find it bothersome. I did notice a small amount of bleed-through on the thin paper of a Moleskine cahier, but not on any of the other papers I tested.



    Diamine inks are available in a 30ml plastic bottle and an 80ml glass bottle, both of which are utilitarian in appearance. The smaller plastic bottle has a neck that is very small in diameter. I found that some of my larger pens, like a Lamy 2000, would not fit all the way in, which made getting to the ink a bit of a challenge. My recommendation would be to go for the larger bottle.

    Red Dragon has managed to unseat Iroshizuku Momiji as my second favorite red ink, which is something I never thought would happen. Its depth of character, good behavior, strong readability, and versatility put it just behind J. Herbin 1670 on my list, which is no small feat. I recommend it heartily.

    Review Notes: for the wide strokes, I used a Lamy 1.9mm steel calligraphy nib on a Lamy Joy. For the narrow strokes, I used an EF steel nib on a Lamy Safari. The paper is Rhodia 80gsm from a No. 16 Rhodia Bloc Pad.

    Note on this review: a sample of this ink was provided for review purposes by Diamine Ink.
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    awesome review (as always) and ink! my fav red at the moment!
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    awesome review (as always) and ink! my fav red at the moment!








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    Red Dragon is, indeed, a beautiful red. Thanks for an excellent review.

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    I also love this ink. I haven't really tried out many reds but I liked the color samples I saw online. It's not a screaming red so it seems suited for every day use, at least I use it every day and nobody has commented on my choice of color.

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    Very much my go-to red. Unfortunately, unlike David, I've been unable to get J. Herbin 1670 to behave in my pens - clogging, skipping, drying out. I love that ink, and it would be my #1 if it weren't for the problems. I actually have been using a blend that is primarily Red Dragon with a couple hints of other inks to move it more in the 1670 area, but I could live with RD straight out of the bottle, as well.

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    I saw somebody use Diamine Oxblood a few weeks ago, which I liked very much. Darker, but not as dark as it appears in this comparison. I was planning to try it, but Red Dragon might also be a good choice (if only for the name).

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    I never really considered red ink but this looks really tempting.
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    I finally bought a bottle of this ink after sampling several reds. I may be a little late to the party, but this is now my favorite red as well after a little less than a day of use.

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    Nice review! This is my favourite red too.

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    I'm a big fan of their Wild Strawberry. Brighter than Red Dragon and it lays down with a faint dark outline.

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    I love this ink.

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    After a sample, I really must buy a bottle.
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    Ordered mine yesterday. Received 24 Aug - I like it, flows nicely and is not bleeding through any paper that I have tried yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyIvan View Post
    After a sample, I really must buy a bottle.
    Buy, or buy not. There is no must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
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    After a sample, I really must buy a bottle.
    Buy, or buy not. There is no must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura N View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
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    After a sample, I really must buy a bottle.
    Buy, or buy not. There is no must.
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    There is also a rat.
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    Not without transmogrifying the sequence of the letters. Sometimes even coming up with new words for old...

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    Ok, sorry - I'll stop derailing. I really do like my Red Dragon!
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    Thanks for the review. I love Red Dragon - very deep, very saturated, elegant and well behaved. So far, my favourite red ink!

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